Our eyes are only one of the myriad of conditions for us to see.
    We do not use our eyes to see.
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    Sumit Kumar
    What exactly are you focusing on?
    Is it "we" do not (no self) use our eyes...
    Or
    Is it "eyes" don't see...?


    Yin Ling
    Sumit Kumar haha I answer below. Just a reflection from my meditation today.
    Insight has zero logic. But it feels that way vividly- eye don’t see, the whole universe sees.


  • Yin Ling
    Sumit Kumar science privilege the eye.
    What about the light , the object, the air, the rays, the consciousness.. conveniently ignored 😝 without any one od this we couldn’t see, so why just eye, see?


  • Sumit Kumar
    Yin Ling
    Perfect, I think I understand now.
    Can we say, for the suchness of seeing to happen, eyes, light, the object, the air, consciousness etc. are the conditions?

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  • Yin Ling
    But the seeing doesn’t happen to the eyes.
    The object is not the cause.
    The “object” is also one of the conditions.
    The eye is also only one of the many conditions , equal level with light, consciousness , colours, shapes,
    U can say light sees, consciousness sees, colours sees, eye see…
    Not
    Only eye alone sees
    This is hence dependent origination taught by the blessed one.
    That’s my understanding and insight of that teaching
    Plus without any one condition the seeing cannot happen, hence all conditions are empty of its own existence. Hence emptienss 🙂

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  • Yin Ling
    In realization, the whole person/being sees.
    The ear nose skin stomach energy , sees. Everything sees. The universe sees itself. …
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    Sumit Kumar
    Can we say that actually we cannot choose one thing over another, like seeing over hearing? Because all the "happenings" are coemerging.
    If I am understanding correctly then in direct experience of just being, we can't really see separation between hearing and seeing for example, because everything sees, feels, hears etc.??


  • Yin Ling
    Sumit Kumar if u still see a self one probably can “choose”.
    When in no self xp is just manifesting n there’s not even a chooser.


  • William Lim
    In that context, how do you account for a blind person?


    Yin Ling
    William Lim erm.. don’t have eye as condition so cannot see?


  • Yin Ling
    William Lim as all conditions need to be there for one to see.
    Even if u have eyes. If there is no light, there is no seeing.
    So why did we privilege the eye?


  • William Lim
    Yin Ling, funny to be hearing this from a doctor, but I get what u mean


  • Yin Ling
    William Lim hahah actually being a doctor will make one feel v helpless, at least for me.
    There’s too many conditions involve when I treat a patient. I cannot guarantee results.







  • Stian Gudmundsen Høiland
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    Yin Ling
    Stian Gudmundsen Høiland haha thanks! Not really where I am in insight now, was here maybe a year ago, but more of a clarity how to explain to others 🙂 will check out the group


  • Jayson MPaul
    Yin Ling this group was great for finding other blind spots and things I tend to overlook. Good for clearing obscurations from other angles.



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