Just saw through a subtle tendencies to separate and divide in experience. I was sitting down to meditate and I realized that every sensation is the meditating. No one is more the meditating than not. Since the sound of the bird is very much the bird, the bird is the meditating too. Everything interpenetrates like this. Then perception flipped into a single sense door. Total being. In every activity, all sensations are the activity. Seeing with one's ears and hearing with one's eyes is clear.

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Stian Gudmundsen Høiland
So since there is meditating ("here"), the whole universe meditates (/ shares in the meditating)?

Jayson MPaul
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Yes. It came upon by noticing that every sensation that happens while meditating has been the act of meditating. There is no meditating beyond all sensations and Meditating is fully inclusive of all. All activities can be recognized to be this way as well.
Before it was more like, there is sound separate from the activity of meditating. But drawing lines like that is just inhibitting undivided seamless experiencing.
Stian Gudmundsen Høiland
Yeah; the drawn lines.
So right now, Jayson is taking the bus 😛
So are ya’ll others!
Soh Wei Yu
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When expressed this way sometimes some people may mishear it in terms of panpsychism but this is not necessarily our view. Like the rock is literally conscious and meditating but thats not what we mean
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André A. Pais
Tks. These conversations with Karma Phuntsho are very interesting.
John Tan, what do you think of the following video, taken from the same interview, where Jinpa kind of distances Tsongkhapa from the Zen (and Dzogchen) tradition? Because you've previously made the connection between Tsongkhapa and Dōgen.
Thupten Jinpa: On the Buddha-Nature of Insentient Things
Thupten Jinpa: On the Buddha-Nature of Insentient Things
Thupten Jinpa: On the Buddha-Nature of Insentient Things
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John Tan
André A. Pais I think Jinpa may not be familiar with zen language and is taking it too literally rather than metaphorically to express first person non-dual experience. This is similar to Mipham 2 models of 2 truths, one from authentic/non-authentic experience standpoint and the other from ontological 2 truth standpoint.
Jinpa is talking from the ontological 2 truth model where zen or other direct path traditions r talking from the former authentic experience model.
For the authentic experience 2-truth model, since both self and others are de-constructed in the ultimate, the taste of purity, presence and aliveness permeates everything in experience, both sentient and insentient included. It doesn't mean the insentient is conscious as in panpsychism. That is my opinion.
As for Tsongkhapa and Dogen, both masters respect the conventional and their attitudes towards conduct and karma are uncompromising. Also Tsongkhapa deep interest in Avatamsaka Sutra and Dogen's total exertion make me even want to connect both of them more. 🤪
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