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Whenever I get bothered by my restless thoughts I ask myself,"Am I these thoughts or the eternal Self that witnesses these thoughts" and try to be more aware. Is there anything wrong in this technique?

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IMO: It's better you ask "What is this Self that witnesses these thoughts", because this inquiry will turn your attention towards the Source, find out what exactly is this Self. Then you will sieve out the self from the not-self.

Whereas "Am I these thoughts or am I Self" may just lead to a mental or conceptual conclusion "I am Self" but not the pure direct realization and experience of what exactly and precisely Self is.

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IMO: It's better you ask "What is this Self that witnesses these thoughts", because this inquiry will turn your attention towards the Source, find out what exactly is this Self. Then you will sieve out the self from the not-self.

And who will give me the answer? Will my 'SELF' give any answer? I don't exactly get it. How will answer come on its own?

Whereas "Am I these thoughts or am I Self" may just lead to a mental or conceptual conclusion "I am Self" but not the pure direct realization and experience of what exactly and precisely Self is.

I thought it would help me to make me seperate from the thoughts so that I don't get bothered by my thoughts. Self Enquiry is hard to understand. Can you sinplify?

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“That which is sure of its existence – the innermost certainty of I Am – is what you essentially are. In other words: I Am this knowing that knows that I Am.” - Leo Hartong

"Doubts
By turning the attention to the mind, immediately there are doubts. More thoughts rush in to question the questions, confirm or contradict other thoughts. A maddening cycle...
Notice when thoughts are paused there are no doubts; the certainty of (doubtless) Being is obviously present; the unquestionable FACT of EXISTENCE. Notice that the Being is ALWAYS presently shining, effortlessly and spontaneously. Stay with that undeniable non-conceptual confidence. Your Being has always been present for every single experience. That natural cognition in which all experiences arise is not a person.
Be as you ARE and not what you imagine yourself to be.
~ Jason Swason, May 8, 2010"

Self enquiry is quite simple. Just find out, Who am I? What am I? Before birth, who am I? Without thoughts, what am I? You can pick or choose the exact phrasing but the point of the self enquiry is not in reciting words. It's in directing attention to find out the Source of your Being at a non-verbal level.

If you need more pointers check these out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCrWn_NueUg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=783Gb4KbzGY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymvj01q44o0

https://youtu.be/BA8tDzK_kPI
http://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2020/11/what-is-your-very-mind-right-now.html
http://awakeningtoreality.blogspot.com/2018/12/the-direct-path-to-your-real-self.html
https://app.box.com/s/v8r7i8ng17cxr1aoiz9ca1jychct6v84

Read books like "Be As You Are" by Ramana Maharshi, also books by John Wheeler (the advaita author). These may also be helpful.

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