- Everything appearaing in mind as vision is based on an aspect of the seer "out there". That is the real nature of the seen.Everything appearaing in mind as sound is based on an aspect of the hearer "out there". That is the real nature of the heard.Everything appearaing in mind as touched is based on an aspect of the toucher "out there". That is the real nature of the touched.The snake is eating its own tail.
7 CommentsSoh Wei YuAdminThat leads to "All is Mind". Then insight must arise into no hearer, no seer, no agent, anatta.A distinct insight.Excerpt:All phenomena are illusory displays of mind.Mind is no mind--the mind's nature is empty of any entity that is mindBeing empty, it is unceasing and unimpeded,manifesting as everything whatsoever.Examining well, may all doubts about the ground be discerned and cut.Naturally manifesting appearances, that never truly exist, are confused into objects. Spontaneous intelligence, under the power of ignorance, is confused into a self.By the power of this dualistic fixation, beings wander in the realms of samsaric existence.May ignorance, the root of confusion, he discovered and cut.It is not existent--even the Victorious Ones do not see it.It is not nonexistent--it is the basis of all samsara and nirvana.This is not a contradiction, but the middle path of unity.May the ultimate nature of phenomena, limitless mind beyond extremes, he realised.If one says, "This is it," there is nothing to show.If one says, "This is not it," there is nothing to deny.The true nature of phenomena,which transcends conceptual understanding, is unconditioned.May conviction he gained in the ultimate, perfect truth.Not realising it, one circles in the ocean of samsara.If it is realised, buddha is not anything other.It is completely devoid of any "This is it," or "This is not it."May this simple secret, this ultimate essence of phenomena,which is the basis of everything, be realised.Appearance is mind and emptiness is mind.Realisation is mind and confusion is mind.Arising is mind and cessation is mind.May all doubts about mind be resolved.Not adulterating meditation with conceptual striving or mentally created meditation,Unmoved by the winds of everyday busyness,Knowing how to rest in the uncontrived, natural spontaneous flow,May the practice of resting in mind's true nature be skilfully sustained.The waves of subtle and coarse thoughts calm down by themselves in their own place,And the unmoving waters of mind rest naturally.Free from dullness, torpor, and, murkiness,May the ocean of shamatha be unmoving and stable.Looking again and again at the mind which cannot be looked at,The meaning which cannot be seen is vividly seen, just as it is.Thus cutting doubts about how it is or is not,May the unconfused genuine self-nature he known by self-nature itself.Looking at objects, the mind devoid of objects is seen;Looking at mind, its empty nature devoid of mind is seen;Looking at both of these, dualistic clinging is self-liberated.May the nature of mind, the clear light nature of what is, be realised.Free from mental fabrication, it is the great seal, mahamudra.Free from extremes, it is the great middle way, madhyamika.The consummation of everything, it is also called the great perfection, dzogchen.
(Busy with nothing till old. (无事忙中老)
In emptiness, there is weeping and laughing. (空里有哭笑)
Originally there never was any 'I'. (本来没有我)
Thus life and death can be cast aside. (生死皆可抛)) - http://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2020/11/differentiate-wisdom-from-art.html[8:59 PM, 7/26/2020] Soh Wei Yu: Ic...[9:10 PM, 7/26/2020] John Tan: Then u can't say phenomena is empty if u resonate with AF. AF is based on the concreteness of phenomena.[9:12 PM, 7/26/2020] John Tan: If u say u resonate, then emptiness cannot b anywhere resonating at all.[9:13 PM, 7/26/2020] John Tan: In fact just opposite as in the eight similes of illusion.[9:25 PM, 7/26/2020] Soh Wei Yu: I resonate with af in the sense that i do not see an ultimate Self or cosmic mind at all, or one mind or all is mind.. i only see luminous aggregates that are totally exerting as infinitude of universe and time[9:26 PM, 7/26/2020] Soh Wei Yu: But yet not the same as AF because i see the eight examples of illusion as applying to these luminous aggregates[9:26 PM, 7/26/2020] John Tan: There is nothing wrong resonating with AF[9:27 PM, 7/26/2020] John Tan: Just that u need to b clear, u can't b neither here nor there.[9:27 PM, 7/26/2020] John Tan: Mixing up everything[9:28 PM, 7/26/2020] Soh Wei Yu: Basically like what ted biringer said about existence time except even that is empty[9:28 PM, 7/26/2020] Soh Wei Yu: So i dont see timeless formless absolute[9:30 PM, 7/26/2020] John Tan: If u see anatta as de-cosntruction of self, then deconstructing further into object is just a natural progression.[9:31 PM, 7/26/2020] John Tan: Unless one is stuck in seeing through self with experience and have insight of no self but did not know the cause of it.[9:38 PM, 7/26/2020] Soh Wei Yu: Oic..[10:20 PM, 7/26/2020] John Tan: Do u know e main different between sutrayana and vajrayana?[10:24 PM, 7/26/2020] Soh Wei Yu: Malcolm says view are the same but path different[10:24 PM, 7/26/2020] Soh Wei Yu: Maybe vajrayana deals with energy[10:25 PM, 7/26/2020] John Tan: That is e main difference[10:25 PM, 7/26/2020] Soh Wei Yu: Ic..[10:26 PM, 7/26/2020] John Tan: In fact all religions, science, new age or old age...lol ultimately must come to this[10:30 PM, 7/26/2020] Soh Wei Yu: Oic..[10:30 PM, 7/26/2020] Soh Wei Yu: Science also?[10:30 PM, 7/26/2020] John Tan: Of course
If both mind and phenomena are completely indistinguishable in experience, then distinctions are nothing more than conventional designation of empty luminous display.
[8:54 PM, 7/26/2020] Soh Wei Yu: Oic.. btw did sheng yen realise anatta?
[8:55 PM, 7/26/2020] John Tan: So you must know when we say no awareness, no self, no I, it doesnt mean nothing. It is seeing through the background construct and open the gate to directly taste, experience and effortless authenticate clarity.
[8:56 PM, 7/26/2020] John Tan: I believe so but he did not talk about his experience except the stanza before his death that is beautiful.