Yin Ling's Book Recommendations: The Practice of Dzogchen

 Also see: The Practice Of Dzogchen: Longchen Rabjam's Writings on the Great Perfection

    Yin Ling

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    Book recc
    Very excellent.
    A translation of Longchenpa teachings on DZogchen, great perfection.
    It was lying on my shelf for a long time bec I couldn’t understand the book for a long while. A year I think.
    Then, Suddenly I could.
    Probably due to anatta and direct insight into emptiness.
    The insights in this book correlates to my own insights and realisations. Very powerful. Idk whether it’s longchenpa’s teaching or this environment I am in that keep stoking the fire of insight.
    But the clarity and illusoriness is present so strongly past few days while reading this.
    Language is easy too, just a bit thick, bout 400 pages.
    Who have read this? Did you like it?
    😁

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    • Tony Taylor
    Another one I need to get 😂
    May be an image of 1 person, book and text that says 'My unread books watching me buy new books.'


    • Soh Wei Yu
    Do send us a list of your book recommendations!


    Yin Ling
    Will sit down and take some time to write it out next week.
    I’m not v organised so need to look back at my bookshelf in many places, my kindle, my Apple Books🤣🤣🤣

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The King of Reasoning: Dependent Origination

 Kyle Dixon, reddit:

This topic can get somewhat detailed but I think an important distinction to make is between what Nagarjuna called dependent existence [parabhava] and dependent origination [pratityasamutpada]. Nowadays, these two principles are often conflated, but if we consult Nagarjuna's writings on this topic, we find that he makes a firm distinction and that distinction is important.

Parabhava, or "dependent existence" as it is sometimes glossed, describes precisely this idea of things depending upon each other and arising in mutual dependence. Nagarjuna actually criticizes this idea and says that this view of existence is merely a guise for svabhava or inherent existence. By virtue of parabhava, the principle of svabhava sort of covertly sneaks into the fold and if it is not recognized, the individual may simply replace the misconception of svabhava with a view of parabhava.

Dependent origination [pratityasamutpada] is not actually things arising in mutual dependence, not necessarily. In dependent origination proper the idea of origination or arising should ideally but understood as being cradled in what these teachings call avidya, or ignorance. In Nagarjuna's Yukisastikakarika he states:

        When the perfect gnosis sees that things come from ignorance as condition, nothing will be objectified, either in terms of arising or destruction.

Going on to state:

        Since the Buddhas have stated that the world is conditioned by ignorance, why is it not reasonable [to assert] that this world is [a result of] conceptualization? Since it (the world) comes to an end when ignorance ceases; why does it not become clear that it was conjured by ignorance?

As such, phenomena appear to originate due to the presence of ignorance influencing the mindstream, polluting the mindstream, so that things are not seen accurately. Once ignorance is removed from the mindstream, then phenomena are seen to be primordially unoriginated, or non-arisen.

In this way the real meaning of "dependent origination" is that phenomena appear to originate in dependence upon the presence of ignorance. Apparent entities are dependently originated with ignorance. However in actuality there has never really been origination at any point in time, only the misconception of origination.

This correlation is made explicit in quite a few places. Manjusri states:

        Whatever is dependently originated does not truly arise.

Nagarjuna:

        What originates dependently is unoriginated!

Candrakirti:

        The perfectly enlightened buddhas proclaimed, "What is dependently created is uncreated [non-arisen]."

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John Tan commented:

 

We project svabhava onto what appears where it actually lacks.  Dependent existence is based on that cognitive fault and faulty premise whereas dependent orignation is taught to correct that.  It explains the process of formation upon ignorance as well as de-construction.  It is also the king of reasoning, seeing dependent origination also sees the 8 negations; therefore it is an enlightened view.

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A Short Pointer Better Than Ten Thousand Words

 

    Soh Wei Yu

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    Sometimes lengthy writings and texts may not be as potent and powerful as a short and concise pointer deeply contemplated and penetrated. This short teaching by Buddha has led to my anatta breakthrough and for many others. A crucial pointer. English and Chinese:
    In the seen, there is only the seen,
    in the heard, there is only the heard,
    in the sensed, there is only the sensed,
    in the cognized, there is only the cognized.
    Thus you should see that
    indeed there is no thing here;
    this, Bahiya, is how you should train yourself.
    Since, Bahiya, there is for you
    in the seen, only the seen,
    in the heard, only the heard,
    in the sensed, only the sensed,
    in the cognized, only the cognized,
    and you see that there is no thing here,
    you will therefore see that
    indeed there is no thing there.
    As you see that there is no thing there,
    you will see that
    you are therefore located neither in the world of this,
    nor in the world of that,
    nor in any place
    betwixt the two.
    This alone is the end of suffering.” (ud. 1.10)



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    • Tan Jui Horng
    I'm wondering if I'm the only one who ended up with I Am insight while contemplating this sutta 🤣 . Thankfully since the sutta also said nothing about this I Am I didn't end up stuck there.


    Soh Wei Yu
    Tan Jui Horng you are not the only one
    The Indonesian monk also
    Later on i explained bahiya sutta and anatta to him, he realised anatta
    Then he told me throughout indonesia no others have realised anatta


    • Tan Jui Horng
    Nice. Only 4 things to contemplate, very short so easy to hold in memory, little else to distract the practitioner so easier to get to "somewhere"


    • Geovani Geo
    Very powerful indeed

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