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Finally, with the help of AI's automated transcription of videos, I have finished my transcription of this 3.5 hours long meeting! You can read it here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16QGwYIP_EPwDX4ZUMUQRA30lpFx40ICpVr7u9n0klkY/edit ChatGPT's Synopsis and Timeline of ATR Meeting on 28 October 2020

INTRODUCTION AND CONTEXT (00:00 - 17:00)

  • Discussion about the pandemic's impact on businesses and related moral dilemmas in investments​​.

SPIRITUAL AWAKENING DISCUSSION (17:00 - 30:00)

  • Kenneth Bok asks about the start of John Tan's spiritual journey.
  • John Tan shares his journey began at age 15 with the "I Am" experience, describing it as a direct experience of self-awareness, linking it to Buddhism and Hinduism​​.

THE NATURE OF EXPERIENCE AND NON-DUALITY (30:00 - 1:00:00)

  • John Tan elaborates on the difference between experience and insight, emphasizing non-duality and the phases of realizing no-self​​.
  • Discussion on how the concept of self is a mental construct and the phases of realizing no-self, including insights on reification and Madhyamaka​​.

ANATTA AND TOTAL EXERTION (1:00:00 - 1:20:00)

  • Detailed discussion on the experience of anatta (no-self) and total exertion.
  • John Tan explains anatta involves experiencing things directly without the conceptual overlay of self, and how total exertion involves seamless integration with all experiences​​.
  • Practical methods mentioned include Vipashyana (insight meditation), mindfulness, and the importance of direct, non-dual experiences​​.

INTEGRATING INSIGHTS AND PRACTICAL APPLICATION (1:20:00 - 1:40:00)

  • Conversation shifts to practical applications of spiritual insights in daily life, including the continuous process of deconstructing concepts and the importance of sincerity in self-inquiry​​.

SOMATIC PRACTICES AND YOGA (1:40:00 - 2:00:00)

  • John Tan and William Lam discuss various somatic practices and yoga.
  • Mention of Qi Gong, Tai Chi, Yoga, and other somatic exercises as methods to facilitate spiritual insights and bodily awareness​​.
  • Discussion on how these practices help in managing stress, fear, and enhancing bodily awareness through exercises like deep breathing and rhythmic movements​​.

TAOISM AND OTHER SPIRITUAL TRADITIONS (2:00:00 - 2:20:00)

  • John Tan discusses his experiences and insights from Taoism, comparing it to Buddhism.
  • Explanation of key Taoist concepts like Wu Wei (Actionless Action) and the interconnectedness emphasized in the I Ching​​.
  • Discussion on Taoist practices focusing on the transformation of Qi (vital energy) and the cultivation of Shen (spirit)​​.

ADVANCED SOMATIC AND MEDITATIVE PRACTICES (2:20:00 - 2:40:00)

  • Discussion on advanced practices such as the microcosmic orbit in Taoist alchemy, involving the circulation of energy through the body.
  • Mention of Kundalini practices and their parallels in Taoism and Yoga​​.
  • John Tan explains how these practices aim to balance and enhance energy flow, contributing to spiritual development​​.

CONCLUDING REMARKS AND FINAL THOUGHTS (2:40:00 - END)

  • Reflections on the journey of spiritual practice, the importance of understanding and deconstructing concepts, and maintaining a connection with teachings and experiences across different spiritual traditions.
  • Emphasis on the continuous nature of spiritual practice and the integration of insights into daily life​​.

TOA PAYOH MEETING ENDING

OVERCOMING ATTACHMENT AND CONCEPTUAL DECONSTRUCTION

  • John Tan elaborates on overcoming attachment and the nature of attributes and objects.
  • He discusses how attributes like color are not inherent in objects but are dependent on consciousness and the whole exertion of consciousness​​.
  • Emphasizes the gradual process of deconstructing concepts such as cause and effect and attributes over years, leading to a deeper understanding of dependent origination​​.
This synopsis captures the flow of the conversation and key points discussed during the meetings, providing a structured timeline for easy reference. It includes mentions of various somatic practices and yoga, emphasizing their role in spiritual development, and incorporates the discussion from the Toa Payoh Meeting Ending.

 

"Not sure if you have seen this but Elias Capriles contrasts different traditions and states of realization in this interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDWDF35A-1U

Elias Caprilles interviewed by Vladimir Maykov on Ken Wilber's distortion of Buddhism and Dzogchen

He starts to mention at 17:00, then again around 19:00 and also 25:00
He seems to reference Mahā total exertion at the end" - Kyle Dixon

"Interesting...Elias Capriles talk about total exertion and non-action.  He also give an example of some one drawing a circle...which I think is very good.  My son intro-ed an artist that is like that into total non-action...every point he draws is simply perfect...when they later map and calculate the ratio and distance... Kim Jung Gi" - John Tan

"Very good.  The view is clear." - John Tan


Also here is a nice article that is related: http://www.integralworld.net/capriles1.html

THE TRANSRELIGIOUS FALLACY
IN WILBER’S WRITINGS

And Its Relation With Wilber's
“Philosophical Tradition" And Views

"Beyond Mind", Part III, Appendix 1

ELÍAS CAPRILES