Showing posts with label Ācārya Malcolm Smith. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Ācārya Malcolm Smith. Show all posts
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For students of the Great Perfection (Dzogchen), a rare and significant study opportunity begins this January 2026.

Ācārya Malcolm Smith will host a new webcast series, "Yoga of the Natural State," based on his newly released translation of essential texts from the Dzogchen Aural Lineage authored by the omniscient Longchenpa.

This course explores a special experiential tradition of teachings originally transmitted by the 11th-century master Chetsun Sengé Wangchuk. Passed down as a "mouth-to-ear" (aural) lineage from one teacher to one student for centuries, these instructions were finally committed to writing by Longchenpa in the Lama Yangtig and Zabmo Yangtig collections.

Unlike the often dense and arcane language of the Seventeen Tantras, these aural lineage texts are renowned for being experiential, direct, and written in accessible language rich with similes and metaphors. The teachings cover the entire path of the Great Perfection—from preliminary practices and the introduction to the nature of mind, to the correct view, meditation, conduct, and the attainment of liberation.

This series offers a comprehensive guide for those wishing to deepen their practice through authoritative, direct instructions.

Event Details

  • Topic: Yoga of the Natural State (The Dzogchen Aural Lineage)
  • Teacher: Ācārya Malcolm Smith
  • Dates: Saturdays, January 3, 2026 — February 7, 2026
  • Time: 10:00 AM Eastern Time (US/Canada)
  • Format: Zoom (Live Webcast)

Cost: Suggested donation: $210.

How to Join: Registration is now open. The Zoom link will be sent to participants on January 2nd.

Register here at Zangthal.com

For a deeper dive into the context of these specific teachings, you may find this discussion helpful: Dzogchen Aural Lineage with Malcolm Smith

This video features the translator discussing the unique history of the Lama Yangtig and Zabmo Yangtig texts that form the basis of the upcoming course.


Here is an extract from the Introduction:

The Indian antecedents for what has become known in Tibet as rdzogs pa chen po, the Great Perfection, grew out of a trenchant skepticism toward the liberative effectiveness of the ritualized Buddhist practice we now call Vajrayāna, as well as skepticism toward the grand vision of liberation over three incalculable eons that we find in mainstream Indian Mahāyāna. This skepticism has been carried forward by Tibetan adherents of the Great Perfection tradition to the present day, even while many of them are also fully engaged in Vajrayāna ritualism.

The fundamental argument of the Great Perfection in all its expressions is that awakening is not the result of cause and effect and cannot be achieved through effort. The Great Perfection takes quite literally the Buddha’s description of awakening found in the Lalitavistara Sūtra that buddhahood is peaceful, uncompounded, pure, free from all proliferation, and blissful. Accordingly, awakening is something to be discovered in the direct perception of dharmatā rather than generated through causes.

Between the introduction of the Great Perfection to Tibet in the last quarter of the eighth century and the second influx of Buddhism from India during the latter part of the tenth century and the eleventh century, the communities in which the Great Perfection teachings spread were very active, given the evidence of the large number of texts on the Great Perfection that can be dated before 1200 CE. Following this, during the period of Buddhist institutional reconsolidation, which began during the eleventh century, Tibetans would choose whether they continued with the indigenous expressions of the Dharma that grew out of the early diffusion of Buddhism in the eighth and ninth centuries (Nyingma and Bön) or abandon these for newer forms of Vajrayāna imported to Tibet, such as those flourishing in the Indian monastic universities of Vikramaśilā, Nālandā, Somapura, and elsewhere, such as the Buddhist communities in the Kathmandu Valley and Kashmir. A prime example of this is Khön Könchok Gyalpo’s (1034–1102) tentative abandonment of the Khön clan’s hereditary teachings in favor of the Hevajra and Cakrasaṃvara teachings newly imported to Tibet. The eleventh century also witnessed the rise of the Bön tradition as a viable tradition, even if politically and socially isolated, whose principal Great Perfection teaching is the Aural Lineage of Zhang Zhung.

The evidence suggests that Tibetan Great Perfection adherents did not passively wait out the chaos brought about by the collapse of the Tang dynasty and unrest in Central Asia due to Arab military adventures in the region. This is quite clear, given that Great Perfection texts, tantric rituals, and Chan literature were found side by side on the outskirts of the Tibetan empire in the Dunhuang caves, which were closed in the early eleventh century. In various places in Tibet and Kham, tantric lineages such as Vajrakilāya were actively practiced, and Tibetan adepts such as Vairocana, Yudra Nyingpo, Nubchen Sangyé Yeshé, Aro Yeshé Jungné, and so on, were active in promulgating the teachings of the Great Perfection as a tradition divorced from and superior to the ritualized forms of tantric Buddhism brought to Tibet with royal support during the imperial period. The Great Perfection literature we have received clearly reflects the indigenous interests and needs of a community of Tibetan scholars and practitioners whose time is obscure to us and to Tibetan historians due to internal and external military, political, and social upheaval in and around Tibet between 840 CE and 970 CE.

The Great Perfection’s own narratives across all genres consistently report that the Great Perfection teachings were regarded with trepidation and fear by Tibetan religious and secular elites. The background for this anxiety is the famed Samyé debate between the Indian paṇḍita Kamalaśīla and the Chinese bhikṣu Hashang Mahāyāna, which led to the Tibetan elite’s adoption of the gradualist position of Indian Buddhism as the state-sanctioned form of Buddhism in toto. Consequently, the Great Perfection was promulgated within a limited circle of practitioners who were not afraid to explore the buddhahood that was free from a cause and who had the religious maturity not to use it as an excuse for blatant antinomian conduct.

To contextualize the Great Perfection with the Nyingma school, the latter defines six grades of tantras: a class of three outer tantras—kriyāubhaya, and yoga—which lacks a completion stage and mainly focuses on ritual, and a class of three inner tantras—mahāyoga, anuyoga, and atiyoga—which mainly focuses on samādhi. The Nyingma school places tantras such as the GuhyasamājaGuhyagarbha, and so on, within the category of mahāyoga, which places great emphasis on a gradual process of creation, the imagined construction of a celestial mansion and its deities.

In particular, the Guhyagarbha is considered the basic tantra of the Nyingma school because its thirteenth chapter describes the state of the Great Perfection. Based on this fact and other sources, some Western historians conclude that the Great Perfection did not originally exist as an independent tradition and attempt to locate its origin in this source text, framing the Great Perfection principally as a development of the early reception of the mahāyoga class of tantras. However, they will readily admit this assessment does not find support within the earliest extant commentaries of the tradition of the Great Perfection itself. This view, common among Western historians, is in stark contrast with the traditional Nyingma view, which characterizes the Great Perfection as an independent tradition from the start, with its own texts, lineages, and traditions.


Soh

 


Deep Dive: A Comparative Look at Dzogchen and Non-dual Shaiva Tantra

In a recent episode of the Tantra Illuminated podcast, Dr. Christopher Wallis (Hareesh) sat down with Ācārya Malcolm Smith for a rigorous and illuminating conversation. While the title of the episode suggests a simple comparison, the dialogue quickly evolves into a deep dive into the nuances of Dzogchen (Great Perfection) and Non-dual Shaiva Tantra (specifically the Krama lineage).

Malcolm Smith, a veteran of a three-year solitary Tibetan Buddhist retreat and a renowned translator, brings a wealth of knowledge regarding the Dzogchen tradition. Together with Dr. Wallis, they explore where these two profound traditions intersect, where they diverge, and how they view the ultimate nature of reality.

Here are the key takeaways and memorable quotes from this fascinating exchange.

The Guest: From Industrial Music to Ācārya

Malcolm Smith’s journey is as fascinating as his scholarship. Starting as an industrial musician in the 1980s, he was eventually stopped in his tracks by the philosophy of Nāgārjuna. This led him away from theistic traditions and toward the logical rigor of Buddhism. Today, he is a highly respected teacher and translator of the Tibetan Buddhist tradition, specifically the "Great Perfection."

The Central Tension: Creation vs. Completion

One of the primary distinctions Smith draws early in the conversation is the difference between "Normative Vajrayana" and Dzogchen regarding practice.

  • Normative Vajrayana: Often relies on the "Creation Stage"—visualizing oneself as a deity and the world as a mandala to purify perception. The idea is to "cure concepts with concepts."

  • The Dzogchen View: Rejects the idea that you can cure concepts with more concepts. Instead, it emphasizes the "Completion Stage" or Trekchö—resting in the nature of mind without the need for elaborate visualization.

Understanding "Trekchö": Falling Apart, No Self

A highlight of the conversation is the linguistic correction regarding the Dzogchen term Trekchö. While often translated as "Cutting Through," Smith explains that the term actually refers to a bundle (like a sheaf of wheat) coming undone.

This is critical because it removes the "agent." There is no one cutting the ego.

  • The Insight: The practice is not an active "cutting" by a self; rather, it is the natural falling apart or unraveling of the construct of the self.

  • The Krama Parallel: Dr. Wallis notes a striking parallel in the Shaiva Krama lineage. When one sees through the illusory construct of independent selfhood, the "bundle" of the self naturally unravels, leaving only a flux of phenomena.

The Mechanics of Delusion: The Five Lights

Both traditions agree that understanding how delusion arises is vital to liberation. Smith provides a precise Dzogchen account involving the "five lights of pristine consciousness." Delusion is not a sin; it is a mistake of recognition.

"We fall into delusion because we become attached to the five lights of pristine consciousness, which we reify as the five vāyus and the five elements."

He explains that what we perceive as the coarse elements of the world are actually misperceived aspects of our own nature:

"Padmasambhava says... these compounded phenomena are actually uncompounded because our experience of the five elements is just due to our not recognizing the nature of the five elements as the five lights of pristine consciousness."

The "Big Secret": Direct Perception

Smith argues that what distinguishes Dzogchen from all other systems is the claim that you can have a Direct Perception (Dharmatā Pratyakṣa) of your own wisdom (jñāna) as a visual experience, without it being an object separate from you.

"No other system in the world says you can directly experience your jñāna as a visual object with your eyes, and achieve liberation in that way."

This is not about a self looking at a light; it is about the thigle rigpa (awareness bindu) becoming manifest.

"Direct perception of this thigle rigpa that exists in the center of your body, whose light can be projected based on certain secondary conditions through the eyes. And then you work with integrating with this light... That's how you get rainbow body."

Ontology: Resting in Diversity

Perhaps the most important distinction Smith makes is regarding "oneness." He clarifies that while Dzogchen is non-dual, it does not reify a single cosmic Self or "One" that we all merge into. There is no underlying "Self" to be found.

"There also isn't any 'one'. There's no one out there to become something part of. We use the term diversity. Then you're just left resting in diversity."

Even in this state of realization, specific perception remains intact. One is free to experience "trees as trees" without reification or grasping:

"All we experience is just diverse appearances that in our own experience, we recognize as just being the expression of the Shakti... of our own consciousness... We just enjoy the variety and rest in that."

The "Guarantee" of Liberation

The conversation closes with a bold assertion regarding the efficacy of the path. Smith notes the "triumphalist" nature of the text, which promises that understanding the lack of an inherent self and the mechanism of delusion is the key to ending suffering.

"Whoever enters the door of Dzogchen teachings, they're guaranteed you will never take rebirth in the three realms again."

Conclusion

Whether you are a student of Buddhism or Shaivism, this deep comparative dive serves as a reminder that these ancient lineages are not just collections of beliefs, but precise technologies.

For the full technical breakdown and to hear the rapport between these two scholars, watch the full episode on the Tantra Illuminated YouTube channel.

Soh

New series of teachings by Dzogchen teacher Acarya Malcolm Smith are now available:

"Zangthal

The Introduction to the Transcendent State of Ati Webcast

Dates: Saturday, November 1st, 2025 — December 6, 2025

Where: Zoom, 10:00 AM, Eastern Time

Suggested donation: $210

The Introduction to the Transcendent State of Ati is a Longsal text (Longsal Teachings, vol. 2) revealed by Chogyal Namkhai Norbu between 1972 and 1983. Structured around the four samādhis—calmness, imperturbability, uniformity, and natural perfection—The Introduction to the Transcendent State of Ati epitomizes the unified meaning of the three primary divisions of the Great Perfection and covers all of its main points.

This teaching is a followup teaching to Longsal Ngondro teachings given in Spring of 2025.

After registering, you will receive an email zoom link on October 31st.

Register here: https://www.zangthal.com/registration"

Qn: Would it be possible to partipate in this teachings even if you haven't received the Longsal Ngondro?

Answer: Yes, you can.



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 Intro talk (to get a feel for Malcolm’s style):

• Talk on Buddhahood in This Life — AtR intro page: https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2023/09/talk-on-buddhahood-in-this-life.html 
• YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMWJ5TbbxU8 

Soh

New podcast share: Malcolm Smith: Dzogchen Teacher & Translator on the Somatic Primer Podcast. Listen here:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/6r8XPaqlpYBYlPU3B54iE6?si=RyjVj0GERgGBbp7v711LUg

Update, here’s another chat with Acarya Malcolm:

✨🎥 WISDOM DHARMA CHAT | Ācārya Malcolm Smith Thursday, August 21, 2025 at 7:00 p.m. EDT Live In-Studio & Online Learn more, get your ticket, or register to join us at https://rebrand.ly/WDCMS0825 Fresh from wrapping up filming on his brand-new Wisdom Academy course, Malcolm will share behind-the-scenes perspectives and personal insights into the profound and transformative path of the great perfection. Together with Daniel, he’ll explore the challenges and blessings of presenting these teachings for a modern audience, and what it means to integrate the view of Dzogchen into everyday life. This conversation will also touch on Malcolm’s upcoming book, Yoga of the Natural State: The Dzogchen Aural Lineage. Whether you’re a longtime student of Dzogchen or newly curious about its radical approach to awakening, this Dharma Chat offers a rare opportunity to connect with one of today’s most respected Western teachers and translators of the great perfection. We hope you’ll join us live—online or in-studio—for this illuminating conversation. #DHARMA #BUDDHISM #WISDOM #WISDOMPUBS #Buddhism #Vipashyana #Shamatha #Wisdom #Meditation #WisdomDharmaChats #WisdomPublications #Dzogchen #DharmaChats #meditation #danielaitken #MalcolmSmith #acaryamalcolmsmith

Update: The date has passed, and a recording is available at https://wisdomexperience.org/wisdom-dharma-chat-acarya-malcolm-smith-08-2025/ .
Soh
Dzogchen teacher Acarya Malcolm Smith:

“In the basis (Tibetan: གཞི, Wylie: gzhi) there were neutral awarenesses (sh shes pa lung ma bstan) that did not recognize themselves. (Dzogchen texts actually do not distinguish whether this neutral awareness is one or multiple.) This non-recognition was the innate ignorance. Due to traces of action and affliction from a previous universe, the basis became stirred and the Five Pure Lights shone out. When a neutral awareness recognized the lights as its own display, that was Samantabhadra (immediate liberation without the performance of virtue). Other neutral awarenesses did not recognize the lights as their own display, and thus imputed “other” onto the lights. This imputation of “self” and “other” was the imputing ignorance. This ignorance started sentient beings and samsara (even without non-virtue having been committed). Yet everything is illusory, since the basis never displays as anything other than the five lights.”

"Dualistic vision arises from the second ignorance, the imputing ignorance; not from the first ignorance, innate ignorance."

"First one has to recognize there are two kinds of ignorance (āvidya): afflictive ignorance and non-afflictive ignorance.

Afflictive ignorance is the first segment of the twelve segments of dependent origination.

Within non-afflictive ignorance there are also two kinds: the the ignorance of the absence of omniscience, for example, in Arhats and Pratyekabuddhas, and the knowledge obscuration from which innate self-grasping arises, which in turn is the cause for the three poisons. This knowledge obscuration is only eradicated in full buddhahood."


Kyle Dixon:

“I’m obviously preferable to the Dzogchen system because I started there and although branching out, my primary interest has remained there. But I do appreciate the run-down of avidyā or ignorance in the Dzogchen system because it is tiered and accounts for this disparity I am addressing. 

There are two or three levels of ignorance which are more like aspects of our delusion regarding the nature of phenomena. The point of interest in that is the separation of what is called “innate” (or “connate”) ignorance, from what is called “imputing ignorance.”

The imputing ignorance is the designating of various entities, dimension of experience and so on. And one’s identity results from that activity. 

The connate ignorance is the failure to correctly apprehend the nature of phenomena. The very non-recognition of the way things really are. 

This is important because you can have the connate ignorance remain in tact without the presence of the imputing ignorance. 

This separation is not even apparent through the stilling of imputation like in śamatha. But it can be made readily apparent in instances where you awaken from sleep, perhaps in a strange location, on vacation etc., or even just awakening from a deep sleep. There can be a period of moments where you do not realize where you are right yet, and then suddenly it all comes back, where you are, what you have planned for the day, where you need to be, etc., 

In those initial moments you are still conscious and perceiving appearances, and there is still an innate experience of the room being external and objects being something over-there, separate from oneself. That is because this fundamental error in recognition of the nature of phenomena is a deep conditioning that creates the artificial bifurcation of inner and outer experiential dimensions, even without the activity of imputation.”


u/krodha avatar

What happens if the mind stops declaring?

Nothing, you still possess a cognitive obscuration that conceives of existent entities.

Emptiness is not just about imputation, it is about how cognition is influenced by ignorance fundamentally. If emptiness only required a cessation of designation then we would all be Buddhas by virtue of stopping thought so we don’t assign characteristics and so on. However that isn’t the case, we still perceive objects even if we stop imputing.

This is why in some traditions the schema of ignorance (avidyā) is layered. There is the imputing ignorance, but beneath that is the connate ignorance, and so on.

Empty doesn't mean it doesn't exist, physically (or otherwise).

While we don’t have to define emptiness as a lack of existence (although most sūtras do), at base it is imperative to understand that perception of the rūpaskandha, or physical matter (the four material elements that comprise “form”), that is endowed with “substance” (dravya) is considered a cognitive error.

Soh

Good news regarding the DharmaWheel scraper (see: Table of Contents for Malcolm Dharmawheel Posts + Astus, Krodha (Kyle Dixon), Geoff (Jnana), Meido Moore):

 
The issue with handling nested quotations in forum posts has been successfully resolved. It now accurately captures all layers of quotations, rather than only the final portion. The scraper correctly processes multiple layers of quoted text, maintains proper speaker attribution, and handles formatting inconsistencies. I have re-compiled the DharmaWheel forum posts of Acarya Malcolm Smith, Krodha (Kyle Dixon), and Astus.
 
Several months ago, someone requested that I address this issue, but I procrastinated and have unfortunately forgotten who it was. I’d like to reconnect with that person and share the results on the blog for anyone else who might find it helpful.

 

Uploaded updated versions yesterday:

Malcolm posts in 12 files (docx and pdf and table of contents provided): https://app.box.com/s/ju3gothq09bmzzpcehv045ylwegvfzaj

Malcolm posts in 3 files (docx and pdf and table of contentsprovided): https://app.box.com/s/pwn72amv07cptm1wekvc2twv3k980iiv

Malcolm posts in one file (docx and pdf and table of contents provided): https://app.box.com/s/ibii96pyxps6nlhy71pj76s5mi92qxr1

Krodha (Kyle Dixon) Dharmawheel Posts: https://app.box.com/s/k0frsynnhxkivdsvjiqyhvt0zc8blbsl

Astus Dharmawheel Posts: https://app.box.com/s/ln2rvagp8u7xx0uytci78defdawgctsm

 

 

I have also updated the code to GitHub. (see: Table of Contents for Malcolm Dharmawheel Posts + Astus, Krodha (Kyle Dixon), Geoff (Jnana), Meido Moore)


Listening to PDFs on iPhone, Android, Windows, and Mac

This guide walks you through downloading and listening to PDF files on various devices using text-to-speech (TTS) features.

iPhone

  1. Download the PDF Files
    1. Open Safari on your iPhone.
    2. Go to the provided Box.com link containing the ZIP file with PDFs.
    3. Tap the ZIP file to download it, then tap again to extract in the Files app.
  2. Add PDFs to Books
    1. Open the Files app.
    2. Find the folder with the extracted PDFs.
    3. Select the PDFs, then tap Share.
    4. Choose Copy to Books to add them to your Books library.
  3. Listen with Spoken Content
    1. Go to Settings > Accessibility > Spoken Content.
    2. Enable Speak Screen and Speech Controller.
    3. Open a PDF in the Books app.
    4. Tap the speech controller icon (the small floating button).
    5. Tap the Play button on the speech controller to begin reading aloud.

Android

  1. Download the PDF Files
    1. Open Chrome and visit the Box.com link.
    2. Tap the ZIP file to download it, then extract its contents using a file manager.
  2. Open PDFs in a PDF Reader
    1. Open your file manager.
    2. Locate a PDF and open it with your preferred PDF reader app.
  3. Use Text-to-Speech
    • Option A: Download a TTS app such as Voice Aloud Reader (or explore the latest options on the Google Play Store).
      1. Open the TTS app, grant permissions, and choose a PDF to listen to.
    • Option B: Use built-in TTS in Android’s Accessibility settings:
      1. Go to Settings > Accessibility > Text-to-Speech Output.
      2. Configure the settings and enable TTS for PDF reading.

Windows

  1. Open Microsoft Edge or Adobe Acrobat Reader.
  2. Open your PDF file.
  3. In Microsoft Edge, click the book-with-speaker icon; in Acrobat Reader, go to View > Read Out Loud.
  4. Select Read Aloud and use the playback controls.
  5. Adjust reading speed and voice under Voice options (in Edge) or Preferences (in Acrobat).
  6. Stop reading by clicking the X in the control bar.

Note: “Read Aloud” works best for text-based PDFs and may not function properly with scanned PDFs.

Mac

  1. Use Preview or Apple Books
    • Preview
      1. Open your PDF in Preview.
      2. Go to Edit > Speech > Start Speaking (or enable the Speak Selection shortcut in System Settings > Accessibility > Spoken Content).
    • Apple Books
      1. Double-click the PDF to open it in Books (or drag and drop it into the Books app).
      2. Use VoiceOver (press Command + F5 to activate) or the Speak Selection feature in Accessibility settings to have the text read aloud.
  2. Configure macOS TTS Settings
    1. Go to System Settings > Accessibility > Spoken Content.
    2. Enable Speak Selection or Speech Controller, choose your voice, and adjust the speaking rate.

Tip: Make sure your PDFs are text-based (i.e., not just images). If your PDFs are scanned documents, you may need Optical Character Recognition (OCR) software before using text-to-speech.

With these steps, you can easily listen to PDFs on your iPhone, Android, Windows PC, or Mac. If you want to explore advanced voice options or speed controls, check out third-party TTS apps and system accessibility settings to find the best setup for you.

Soh

“Earth is flesh... Water is blood... Fire is heat... Air is breath... Space is mind... The sun and moon are the eyes... Stars are light... Clouds are hair... Trees are nāḍīs... Mountains are the body... Cliffs are the bones... These are perfect as such in the body of the yogin. [...] As such, since all phenomena of saṃsāra and nirvāṇa are complete within the body and mind of the yogin, both saṃsāra and nirvāṇa are present as the buddhahood of the naturally perfect nature. [...] This so-called 'saṃsāra,' this is nirvāṇa."

— Excerpt from "Buddhahood in This Life," translated by Dzogchen teacher Acarya Malcolm Smith (Introduction video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMWJ5TbbxU8, Amazon link to book: https://www.amazon.com.au/Buddhahood-This-Life-Commentary-Vimalamitra-ebook/dp/B01G2DD4U6, Acarya Malcolm's website: https://www.zangthal.com/)

Images below generated from ChatGPT / Dall-E.






Soh

 

Some quotes by Acarya Malcolm Smith from Dharmawheel on Conventional vs Ultimate Truth


Malcolm: 


"“Conventional” simply means “functional,” it does not mean arbitrary or subjective. For example, perceiving water as amṛta, pus, boiling metal, etc., is invalid in the human realm.


One can build many kinds of cars, but if they don’t function as cars, they are not cars, conventionally speaking."


"No, conventions are not subjective, they are conventions because one or more people have agreed to call a functional thing a given name. For example, a truck is called a lorry in England, but they both refer to a heavy vehicle that carries loads."


"Conventional truths are derived from observing functional appearances. Falsehoods are derived from observing nonfunctional appearances. Example, lake vs. mirage."


"No, it is not more correct to say consciousness arises or ceases than a labelled self, a since consciousness is also a conventional label, like the label "self." Prior to analysis there is both a self, akuppa, and a consciousness. After analysis one will find neither self nor consciousness, beyond the designations "akuppa" and "consciousness." For example, take a car as a metaphor for "self". A car cannot be found in any part, all of its parts, or separate from its parts. Likewise, as self cannot be found in any aggregates, all of the aggregates, or apart from the aggregates. Likewise, consciousness cannot be found in the sense organ nor the sense object, both, or separate from them. The mind is also made of parts, and cannot be found in one of them, all of them, or separate from them.


Functionally speaking, we can say there is a self, because when I say "akuppa go there!" You will respond to this directive by saying yes or no. This means that "self" is functional. It is efficient. Whatever is functional corresponds with relative truth. If I said to you, "Malcolm go there!" you would respond, "I am not Malcolm." So calling you "malcolm" is not functional and therefore cannot be considered to be relatively true. Consciousness is a relative truth, as long as it performs its functions, then we can say "there is a consciousness." But when we analyze consciousness, we cannot find it outside of the conventions we use for an appearance we label "mind.""


"Two truths are specified, seeing correctly and seeing falsely. That’s enough. No need to have the Buddha declare that aggregates and so on are ultimate, otherwise it would have been game over for Madhyamaka at the beginning."


"Which Sutra view did you have in mind, the one where in PP Sūtra it is stated that all phenomena are nonarising, pure from the beginning, and the state of dharmatā? The dependent origination of phenomena? Emptiness? In what way does Dzogchen refute these views? We do not reject conventional truth in Dzogchen. Longchenpa was utterly clear on this point.


ChNN understood what is stated in the Dzogchen tantras: we do not make a distinction between sharp and dull. If someone is sincerely interested in the teachings, they do not have to convert to Buddhism, but it is not because Buddhism contains any wrong views. It does not. There is no contradiction between Dzogchen and the four truths of nobles. There are serious contradictions however with Samkhya, etc."


"This is not correct. There is such as thing as mundane correct view. A correct view in this case is one that is functional. For example, believing in normative causes and effects. We have to distinguish wrong views about entities from wrong views about essences. Christians have wrong views about both essences and entities, since they believe salvation comes from believing in the divinity of a man executed by Romans somewhere between 30-33 CE.


Buddhists only hold wrong views about essences, i.e. that knowledge obscuration of the innate habit of I-making."

Soh

Mr S wrote to Z., “ Mr S wrote: 


“Hi Z. - Even the idea of an I that dies in to the light is still relating to an I that has agency and can die in to the light. The eogic "I"  can never wake up! And our True Nature is already awake.  At some stage there is a seeing that what we seek we already are (empty awareness that simply is)  and that the egoic mind is just a dynamic appearing in empty awareness (this essentially is what pointed out during a Dzogchen transmission if words are used) However, as part of your process, and as a temporary concession, you can let go and relax into the light and see what happens. It is mega important though to differentiate between awakening (and is happening to know one)  which is totally non personal and an awakening experience which is the egoic self having the experience of an awakening - the latter ends up being just another experience and will be short lived and full of the difficult "post awakening" experiences people often describe, when they mistake it as an actual awakening.”, “Z., notice simply until it crystal clear that the apparent I that has had an abusive past is merely and nothing more than concepts and therefore a story appearing in awareness - seeing that you are the empty awareness and not thought which is like "writing on water" is all that needs to be seen (deeply). The past too is merely a concept arising within awareness. Awareness - your true nature - is without time. Once this is seen clearly, thoughts of all kinds related to the apparent I continue to rise as an energetic unravelling takes place that may continue for many years. This is why in Dzogchen Trekchod is practised thoroughly before Thogal.””



 Soh wrote to Mr S:




Thanks for your sharing. But I would like to mention that seeing 'Awareness' as a container for thoughts and phenomena to arise in is still a form of subtle dualism. It was seen this way during my I AM phase, but further insights into nondual anatman removes this subtle dualism. On anatta and different phases of insights: https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2007/03/thusnesss-six-stages-of-experience.html , https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2007/03/mistaken-reality-of-amness.html , https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2009/03/on-anatta-emptiness-and-spontaneous.html


Likewise, Dzogchen teacher Acarya Malcolm Smith points out in his teachings (and I cannot do direct quotation from him as this is in his private forum posts for Zangthal members, but I have also compiled some of his public forum posts here, worth reading -- https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2014/02/clarifications-on-dharmakaya-and-basis_16.html ), and I paraphrase, that seeing rigpa, pristine consciousness and so on as a container is the problem. There is in truth no container. Radiance is appearances and appearances is radiance.. the issue comes when we reify cognizance (the appearance of diversity) and its radiance as two things, so Dzogchen practice is simply recognizing that cognizance and its radiance are nondual even though there's always appearance of diversity. There is no self, but there is empty cognizance and its radiance.



Furthermore the dualism between rigpa and dhatu that are characteristic of earlier phases of practice and the preliminary form of rigpa, collapses with further insights (what I call nondual anatman insight):


https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2022/02/a-letter-to-almaas-on-dzogchen-and.html


"...Also, as I said in DhO earlier, ""Another interesting 'technical' point since this is DhO. There was a point in his retreat where Arcaya Malcolm Smith described how at the mature phase of Dzogchen practice, the 'vidya'/'rigpa' (the knowing/knowledge) is exhausted where the vidya and dhatu (something like knowing and field of experience) totally collapsed in a 1:1 synchrony (and he gestured two circles coming together), whereas before that point [the exhaustion of vidya] there is a sort of out of phase issue between vidya and dhatu. That's said to happen in the fourth vision (in terms of bhumi map, Malcolm mentioned years ago that's 8th to 16th bhumi based on some text). Somehow it really reminded me of one of Daniel's descriptions in MCTB on fourth path. His student Kyle did inform me that it is the same as what I call anatta realization [which I realised almost 10 years ago, it is the same as MCTB's fourth path]. Also, Malcolm mentioned many people have the wrong idea that Vidya/Rigpa is some eternal thing that just goes on forever, but it too is exhausted later along with all other phenomena [although this is not annihilation as appearances/pure vision still manifest] (elaboration: https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2020/08/acarya-malcolm-on-dzogchen-and-advaita.html )."


Likewise, Kyle Dixon, that Malcolm told me over dinner was the first student of his that totally understood his teaching, also said in 2014, "'Self luminous' and 'self knowing' are concepts which are used to convey the absence of a subjective reference point which is mediating the manifestation of appearance. Instead of a subjective cognition or knower which is 'illuminating' objective appearances, it is realized that the sheer exertion of our cognition has always and only been the sheer exertion of appearance itself. Or rather that cognition and appearance are not valid as anything in themselves. Since both are merely fabricated qualities neither can be validated or found when sought. This is not a union of subject and object, but is the recognition that the subject and object never arose in the first place [advaya]. ", "The cognition is empty. That is what it means to recognize the nature of mind [sems nyid]. The clarity [cognition] of mind is recognized to be empty, which is sometimes parsed as the inseparability of clarity and emptiness, or nondual clarity and emptiness." - Kyle..."



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Wrote to some people on reddit recently: "In the initial phase of practice, and even after the initial awakening into I AM/Eternal Witness, the Witnessing Presence seems to be behind all contents as an underlying background or ground of being.


That duality of context and content collapses in further realizations. In further realization, it is seen that there is never an Agent, a Watcher, an Observer, apart from moment to moment luminous manifestation.


Thought this might interest you, on the stages of spiritual awakening, nondual awareness and its nature and the subtleties of insight:


https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2007/03/thusnesss-six-stages-of-experience.html


https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2007/03/mistaken-reality-of-amness.html


https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2009/03/on-anatta-emptiness-and-spontaneous.html


🙏 🙂 p.s. I'm Soh, and Thusness (John Tan) is my mentor... I've been through similar stages in my journey as the first link (7 stages) with some minor differences (e.g. I didn't go through stage 3)"