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Ng Xin ZhaoOn nonduality, can I say that it's no seer and no forms is because both of them are produced by conceptual mind, whereas only seen (consciousness) is direct experience?Yin LingHi, mostly I understand as because seer-seeing-seen are dependent on each other and could not exist by itself , so any one of them do not truly exist , hence empty. Hence all 3 constructs are empty.Yin LingNg Xin Zhao but the above is analytical path to deconstruct.If in direct experience,Imo it’s like in Bahiya sutra - in the seen only the seen , no seer. Not much logic, it just feels that way.It depends on which way you use to deconstruct. I am more comfortable with the direct way, and use analytical way to supplement
I notice after a 2 weeks travel, my conciousness shifted quite significantly. 
It’s one of the biggest shift I have ever experience. 
I don’t know if it’s travel or nature or the London stress 
 or just a coincidence? 
Anyone else notice such correlation ?
But it’s interesting 
Mayb I should experiment with travelling more
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Mr./Ms. JJ
What shift have you experienced?
Yin Ling
emptiness
 could be directly experienced  most of the time now without inference 
and total exertions sets in powerfully, naturally without inferencing 
too. Like it’s just here. 
Notice coz my house looks and feels differnt 
Gonna spend next few week weeks clarifying for abit hopefully deepen
Jayson MPaul
Yin Ling I'd be interested to hear your description of how total exertion sets in from your own experience.
Yin Ling
Jayson MPaul hi Jayson, 
For
 me mostly I sense phenomena as “energy”, so it is as though when the 
mind is sufficiently “convinced” and able to intuit emptiness, self is 
gone from everywhere including their boundaries, so this energy flows 
through them powerfully like as though they are translucent 
Whenever a phenomena arises, there’s a vast , total, and boundless energy exerting into that phenomena (not separately) 
And
 bc self and boundaries is gone between phenomenas, this energy becomes 
huge and powerfully exerting from everywhere into no where..
Like
 the room I’m sitting in now together with me and the sounds, feel as 
one huge total arising energetically like a huge magical manifestation 
without a breakage anywhere 
But..
 There’s no logic .. it’s just how I sense it , it was glimpses before I
 went on travel .. think the wales mountains did somehting to me 

Does that parallels ur xp?
Jayson MPaul
Yin Ling
 Yeah, I think it does parallel in ways. There was a point when I 
realized I don't experience a conceptual layer on top of sensations 
anymore. It is just direct experience all the time whether I'm noticing 
that or not. This sounds like what maybe you mean by energy, but please 
correct me if I'm misrepresenting. When glimpses of total exertion come 
for me there is this feeling of completeness. It is like perception 
stops jumping from sensation to sensation and instead is coming from all
 points at once. It can sometimes come on after noticing that I was 
somehow excluding certain sensations as not part of the current action 
at some level. Once that is noticed and dropped, it is all one 
happening. It is not yet realized to be "always, already" so to be a 
permanent baseline shift yet, but I'm sure it will. This ongoing process
 is untying the knots now. I don't think I could stop it if I tried  
haha.
Yin Ling
Jayson MPaul very nice , thanks for sharing! 
Yes
 it is all extremely direct without conceptual layers and I agree with u
 about excluding certain sensations- for me it is occasionally my own 
presence, lol, it is v strange to go from only feeling my own presence 
here, to now the mind excluding it  for some weird reasons , so there’s 
some integration there needed for myself 
William Lim
The travelling yogini? 
Yin Ling
Lol But it’s so hard on the body though. I’m no more spring chicken 

William Lim
Yin Ling
 chicken, spring or otherwise, is a sensitive topic now because Malaysia
 stopped its export of chicken to Singapore from 1st June onwards
Yin Ling
William Lim Malaysia v kind help all Singaporeans reduce some bad karma 
William Lim
Lunch of the Day
Yin Ling
William Lim 望梅止渴
Mr./Ms. YEH
Please tell us about this shift
Yin Ling
Mr./Ms. YEH not much really but feel significant to me coz I have been trying hard to intuit this for awhile but not deep enough 
 I reply above 
Punna Wong
You were at 23,000 feet la, so of course your consciousness went up!
Yin Ling
Punna Wong lol u mean the radiation is good for conciousness???
Mr. TJ
Daoist perspective on travel as spiritual practice:

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