Intertwined may not be the best term. It sounds like 2 things brought together.

Which term would you use?

No term is perfect, but perhaps inseparable, one with, of one taste, etc. Intertwined is a very visual thing, like 2 strings spinning around each other. Imo. I'm not native of the English language.

Neither am I.

Geovani Geo y incredible and amazing?

John Tan, well.... I did not expect you to ask that... so lets say its a special koan just for you

Geovani Geo lol. Usually ppl only say it is "incredible" and "amazing" due to "inseparability" or "interwined" because it was once thought to be distinct and separated.

Maybe we mean the same although what you wrote sounds a bit too 'mental'. And whatever I could say will also sound 'mental', but...

Geovani Geo Emptiness is for us to realize this heart (suchness) free from taints (essence, references) other than that, it has no purpose. It is not exactly a mental enterprise, quite contrary, it is the cessation of such proliferated activities.

Of course, emptiness has no purpose. Even conventional space has no purpose. The moment "emptiness" gives raise to intellectual fabrications of any kind its already wonderland. The farther I can go with this right now, without any reference to any 'school' or 'teaching', is to say that 'emptiness' is the realization of absolute lack of references as time or location.

Geovani Geo what is the "emptiness" u r talking about?

The question made using a 'what', makes no sense, John. As I wrote above: "The farther I can go with this right now, without any reference to any 'school' or 'teaching', is to say that 'emptiness' is the realization of absolute lack of references as time or location."

Geovani Geo don't be immobilized. It will lead u nowhere. Emptiness is not to mislead u into a position where one can't clearly discern left from right. It is clear and conventions has valid connotations.

Geovani Geo if however u r referring to direct pointing to one's mind that is a different matter.

What do you mean by "don't be immobilized"?

Geovani Geo just let it be.

But the realization of emptiness, of its natural unborn heart is tantamount to total 'letting it be'. It is the opposite only if 'emptiness' becomes conceptual.

About "mind', it depends on the meaning, right? It can refer to the conditioned ground of the localized 'human', or the ineffable empty ground of all there is.