Showing posts with label Tsongkhapa. Show all posts
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John Tan and I like this excerpt. 
 
John Tan:
“I really like this article from Jay Garfield expressing "emptiness of emptiness" as:
 
1. The everydayness of everyday.
 
2. Penetrating to the depth of being, we find ourselves back to the surface of things.
 
3. There is nothing after all beneath these deceptive surfaces.
 
Also concisely and precisely expressed the key insight of anatta in ATR.”
 
“That is what I always thought is the key insight of Tsongkhapa also. Like the phases of insights in ATR through contemplating no-self (a negation), one directly and non-dually tastes the vivid appearances.”
 
The excerpt:
 
“Now, since all things are empty, all things lack any ultimate nature, and this is a characterization of what things are like from the ultimate perspective. Thus, ultimately, things are empty. But emptiness is, by definition, the lack of any essence or ultimate nature. Nature, or essence, is just what empty things are empty of. Hence, ultimately, things must lack emptiness. To be ultimately empty is, ultimately, to lack emptiness. In other words, emptiness is the nature of all things; by virtue of this they have no nature, not even emptiness. As Nagarjuna puts it in his autocommentary to the Vigrahavyavartanı, quoting lines from the Astasahasrika-prajnaparamita-sutra: ‘‘All things have one nature, that is, no nature.’’
 
Nagarjuna’s enterprise is one of fundamental ontology, and the conclusion he comes to is that fundamental ontology is impossible. But that is a fundamentally ontological conclusion—and that is the paradox. There is no way that things are ultimately, not even that way. The Indo-Tibetan tradition, following the Vimalakırtinirdesa-sutra, hence repeatedly advises one to learn to ‘‘tolerate the groundlessness of things.’’ The emptiness of emptiness is the fact that not even emptiness exists ultimately, that it is also dependent, conventional, nominal, and, in the end, that it is just the everydayness of the everyday. Penetrating to the depths of being, we find ourselves back on the surface of things, and so discover that there is nothing, after all, beneath these deceptive surfaces. Moreover, what is deceptive about them is simply the fact that we take there to be ontological depths lurking just beneath.”
 
Jay Garfield & Graham Priest, in "Nagarjuna and the limits of thought" 

 
 
[4:43 pm, 26/09/2021] Soh Wei Yu: Oh nice didnt know you posted
[4:45 pm, 26/09/2021] John Tan: Yes so well expressed. How can I not post it.🤣
Someone sent me this article. This article is a good article at explaining emptiness teachings, with the added caveat by Thusness/John Tan, "Yeah but what is important is know that relativity has a taste like earth, water, air, space and fire that we mistaken them concrete things. We also only see "relative and relations" as conceptual thought and fail to see and taste them in "live"."

https://emptinessteachings.com/2014/09/11/the-two-truths-of-buddhism-and-the-emptiness-of-emptiness/

10. The one who sees that cause and effect operate infallibly For all the phenomena of saṃsāra and nirvāṇa, And for whom any objects of conceptual focus have subsided, Has set out upon the path delighting all the buddhas.

11. The knowledge that appearances arise unfailingly in dependence, And the knowledge that they are empty and beyond all assertions— As long as these two appear to you as separate, There can be no realization of the Buddha’s wisdom.

13. When you know that appearances dispel the extreme of existence, While the extreme of nothingness is eliminated by emptiness, And you also come to know how emptiness arises as cause and effect, Then you will be immune to any view entailing clinging to extremes.

From The Two Truths Debate: Tsongkhapa and Gorampa on the Middle Way by Sonam Thakchoe











Je Tsongkhapa wrote the text "In Praise of Dependent Origination" (Available Here) the day after he realized Dependent Origination and Emptiness.

"Tsongkhapa’s life changed dramatically around the age of
forty, when he achieved his highest enlightenment experience.
Most of his works were written after that, including his
Lam rim
works, and are regarded by Gelugpa tradition as his “mature”
works. His few early works written prior to that are nonetheless
regarded as very valuable, showing remarkable scholarship in
sorting out and synthesizing their subject matter from the mass
of Indian texts translated in the Tibetan Buddhist canon. Just
after his highest enlightenment experience, he expressed his
new realization in a hymn or song of praise to the Buddha for
teaching dependent origination, the profound teaching of the
twelvefold chain of causation. It is called in short, “In Praise of
Dependent Origination,” and seven translations of it are listed
below. Only very rarely do we have access to the realizations of
such an experience recorded immediately after they occurred,
and directly by the person who achieved them, the only other
such work I know of being ̨a∫karåcårya’s
Dakßiñåmürti-stotra" -

www.easterntradition.org/etri%20bib-tsongkhapa.pdf

p.s. Thusness and I are also very impressed by the insights of Lama Tsongkhapa on anatta, +A and -A as described in "The Two Truths Debate" written by Dr. Sonam Thakchoe, a former Buddhist monk, trained in the Indo-Tibetan tradition for decades and holds the title of Archaya. The book also has a foreword by Jay Garfield.

A few short excerpts from The Two Truths Debate:

"Tsongkhapa does not hold the achievement of nondual wisdom as equivalent to the cessation of cognitive activity"

"Tsongkhapa's description of the way the meditator arrives at nondual
understanding is as follows. The cognitive agent experiences a fusion of subjectivity and its object, which refer here not to self and outside world but rather to elements within the meditators own psychophysical aggregates. The meditator remains introspective, not engaging the outside world, but the outside world as such does not disappear. What occurs is instead a total cessation of the dualities between subject /and object mine, between thinker and thought, between feeler and feelings, between mind and body, between seeing and seen, and so forth.474 Initially a meditator perceives, for instance, that in each act of seeing, two factors are always present: the object seen and the act of seeing it. While each single act of seeing involves dissolution, the object seen and the act of seeing actually consist of numerous physical and mental processes that are seen to dissolve serially and successively.475 Eventually, the meditator also notices the dissolution of the dissolution itself. In other words, the meditator first realizes the fluctuating and transitory character of the five aggregates, which is then followed by the further realization of the aggregates as empty and selfless, and finally by the realization of the emptiness of even the empty and selfless phenomena. Nondual knowledge is thus arrived at, in Tsongkhapas view, through the direct experience of seeing the truths within one s own aggregates, rather than through being convinced of the truth of certain abstractions through rational argument or persuasion. Since the process here is a cognitive experience that operates entirely within the domain of ones own psychophysical aggregates, it is therefore an epistemic but not a metaphysical nonduality."

"Tsongkhapa therefore sees no contradiction in claiming that, from the
empirical standpoint, nondual wisdom constitutes the subjective pole of
consciousnesses with ultimate truth as its objective counterpart.523 From
the ultimate vantage point, on the other hand, nondual wisdom and ultimate truth “are free from the duality of act (bya ba) and object acted upon (byedpa).”524 In the nondual state even the cognitive interplay between subject and object appears, from the meditator’s point of view, to cease completely.

This is because, as Tsongkhapa points out, “duality of act and object
acted upon is posited strictly from the perspective of empirical cognition.”
The dual appearances of subject and object completely dissolve
from the perspective of nondual wisdom, and thus the meditator does not
experience the mutual interaction between distinct and separate elements
between the seer and the seen—but the meditator nonetheless
engages in an act of mere seeing. As the Buddha explains to Bahiya:

In reference to the seen, there will be only the seen. In reference
to the heard, only the heard. In reference to the sensed, only the
sensed. In reference to the cognized, only the cognized. That is
how you should train yourself...then Bahiya, there is no you in
terms of that. When there is no you in terms of that, there is no
you there. When there is no you there, you are neither here nor
yonder nor between the two. This, just this, is the end of stress.526

The experience of mere seeing in a nondual form is valid only when it is
empirically grounded and when there is cognitive activity occurring
between nondual wisdom and nondual ultimate truth. Tsongkhapa maintains, in fact, that the activity between subject and object is inevitable in any acquisition of valid knowledge. It is thus consistent to argue that nondual wisdom involves a knowing subject and ultimate truth involves a
known object."

(That is, conventionally speaking,
as Je Tsongkhapa wrote in the Ocean of Reasoning, “The meaning of the statement that the conventional designation of subject and objects stops is that the designation of these two stops from the perspective of meditative equipoise, but it does not mean that the insight in meditative equipoise and the ultimate truth are rejected as subject and object. This is because their being subject and object is not posited from the perspective of analytic insight, but from the perspective of conventional understanding” (Garfield and Samten 2006a, p. 26)).

"We can thus summarize our discussion of nonduality as follows. Tsongkhapa's account of nondual knowledge rests largely on the unity of the two truths and therefore of emptiness and dependent arising. The attainment of nondual knowledge, according to his view, requires an eradication of ignorance and other reifying tendencies, and does not require any metaphysical shift. More specifically, such attainment does not require the establishment of a metaphysical unity between subject and object nor the eschewal of conventionality."

"As espoused by Tsongkhapa, ultimate valid cognition is transcendent wisdom in the sense that it is directed to the transcendent sphere—toward ultimate truth, supramundane or unconditioned nirvana—but it is nevertheless mundane in terms of its scope and nature. Transcendent wisdom still operates entirely within the range of the conditioned world—it is itself dependently arisen and does not imply a shift to a metaphysically unconditioned sphere. Only reality as it is given within their own five aggregates is accessible to yogis and knowable directly through their personal experience. The transcendence of the categories of prapancas is directed toward just such direct, personal wisdom. It is this wisdom, according to Tsongkhapa, that liberates beings from the obsession with conceptual elaborations such as those associated with the notions of an independent and substantial self— me and mine."