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Showing posts with label Emptiness. Show all posts
Kyle Dixon shared a nice sutra:

"https://read.84000.co/translation/toh180.html

It is an exquisite exposition on nonarising"

ChatGPT translation of a very good Chinese article on Dependent Origination and Emptiness. (Chinese original below) This article to shared to me by John Tan some years ago.

**What does Pratītyasamutpāda (Dependent Origination) Śūnyatā (Emptiness) mean? (Part 1)** 

[Source: http://blog.sina.cn/dpool/blog/s/blog_c3c90ce50101fbkt.html]

**2013-07-24 19:41 | Views: 631**

1. The idea of Pratītyasamutpāda Śūnyatā (Dependent Origination and Emptiness), in summary, is this: all dharmas, because they have no self-nature (nissvabhava), can manifest as illusions depending on conditions. Although all these illusory dharmas are vividly apparent, they are like dreams, illusions, bubbles, and shadows; like dew and lightning. When we truly understand and believe this principle, then all conceptual elaborations will cease, and we will be free from disputes with others and have no inner attachments. Following this, the only thing left in life is to act accordingly and accept whatever comes, without there being, in truth, any merit (puṇya) really existing.

2. The cosmology of Buddhism leans towards phenomenology rather than metaphysical ontology; it analyzes the essence of phenomena based on experiential phenomena. Additionally, Buddhism is not purely a cosmological phenomenology; it is further a method to free oneself from suffering. The focus is on relieving all human suffering. To free humanity from suffering, the Buddha discovered that suffering arises from the misinterpretation of phenomena. Since the misinterpretation and distortion of phenomena bring boundless distress to oneself and others, the Buddha proposed the concepts of Pratītyasamutpāda (Dependent Origination) and Anātman (No-self) as methods to counteract this. Therefore, Pratītyasamutpāda and Anātman are not only explanations of objective phenomena in Buddhism but also methods to eliminate suffering.

3. Everything is merely the transformation of functions and phenomena; within them, there is no life, no body, and no consciousness. This is my understanding of the Dharma.

4. The doctrine of 'Pratītyasamutpāda and Anātman' or 'the ultimate emptiness of Dependent Origination' is the fundamental thought of Buddhism. Any group or individual whose ideas deviate from the principle of Dependent Origination and Emptiness is not recognized as part of Buddhism, even though it may still be a great religion, a rigorous philosophy, or a person of admirable moral character.

5. The Dharma is fundamentally simple; there are only a few words that can truly transcend life and death and ferry one across the sea of suffering. While learning is vast and requires much study and reading, practice is best kept minimal. The Middle Way (Madhyamaka) and Prajñāpāramitā teachings are extensive, but they can be summarized in the two words 'Pratītyasamutpāda' (Dependent Origination). If someone deeply understands the profound meaning of Pratītyasamutpāda, they can immediately distance themselves from conceptual elaborations! Some say, 'From the three thousand waters, I take only one scoop to drink.' One scoop of water is enough to quench thirst, but if one stands by the river and counts the three thousand waters without drinking, they will die of thirst by the river.

6. The meaning of Pratītyasamutpāda and Anātman is a profound Buddhist doctrine. The Buddha once said, 'Pratītyasamutpāda is deep, very deep!' Although we often hear Buddhists talk about 'Pratītyasamutpāda,' those who truly understand the meaning of Pratītyasamutpāda and Anātman are relatively few compared to those who merely speak about it.

7. What does 'Pratītyasamutpāda' mean? Pratītyasamutpāda means that many conditions come together to manifest and complete a thing. What does 'Śūnyatā' mean? It means that since all things are composed of conditions, they do not have their own nature, individuality, permanence, eternity, or autonomy. That is all.

8. The general idea of Pratītyasamutpāda and Anātman is: First, sentient beings' existence is not without cause; their appearance in the world, and the different encounters and retributions they experience, are due to the power of ignorance and karma. Second, sentient beings undergo long cycles of rebirth in the three realms, exhibiting various states of life and creating different bodily and mental activities. However, these states and activities are merely the illusory combinations of roots, objects, and consciousness, without substance, core, and constantly changing and flowing. The essence of Anātman can be summarized in these two points, but for the vast majority of beings attached to sensory experiences, superstitious materialistic thoughts, and constantly distracted, it is extremely difficult to understand! Especially for those who desire to grasp the essential teaching of Pratītyasamutpāda and Anātman and integrate it into their lives to purify the three karmas (body, speech, and mind), to sever thirst and extinguish conceptual elaborations, achieving tranquility and non-contention, it is even more challenging for those with a strong sense of right and wrong and a combative mind!

9. Phenomena have two aspects: their appearance and their essence. The appearance of phenomena refers to all the things, events, principles, and matters that arise and perish due to causes and conditions (including the three realms of samsara, karma, and retribution). The essence of phenomena is impermanence, no-self, and emptiness. One who does not see emptiness is not a Buddhist; one who discusses emptiness apart from the appearance of phenomena does not correctly understand emptiness. Since the three realms of samsara, karma, and retribution cannot be fully comprehended without the attainment of the four dhyānas and the eight samādhis (only through faith and understanding), and because the appearance is infinite and boundless, practitioners cannot observe everything. Therefore, modern Zen advises practitioners to focus on the attainment of pre-dhyāna concentration, living in the present moment, and contemplating the emptiness of the five aggregates at all times and places. Because those who have firm pre-dhyāna concentration can perform deep contemplation, and those who truly see the emptiness of the five aggregates can cease greed and hatred and attain liberation.

10. Buddhism speaks of 'all dharmas being like illusions,' which is discussed together with 'karma and retribution are not lost.' It can be said that these are two sides of the same coin. To say that mountains, rivers, and the great earth are like dreams, illusions, bubbles, and shadows presupposes the acknowledgment of the existence of mountains, rivers, and the great earth; to say that wealth and fame are like dreams, illusions, bubbles, and shadows naturally affirms the existence of wealth and fame before saying they are like dreams, illusions, bubbles, and shadows; to say that the six realms of samsara are like dreams and illusions similarly affirms the existence of the six realms of samsara and that karma and retribution are not lost. The emptiness of dreams and illusions does not negate the fact of dreams and illusions—if a Zen practitioner does not recognize this, they easily fall into the view of nihilistic emptiness.

11. The Buddha said, 'Pratītyasamutpāda is deep, very deep.' Understanding the principle of emptiness is not easy. Those with dull faculties must observe from many aspects to gradually understand emptiness. They need to reflect on the transience and suffering of the world, the despicable, heartless, and fickle nature of human beings, the transient nature of life like staying in a guesthouse, the disguises, performances, packaging, and promotions in society, the deliberate and resultant nature of worldly affairs as combinations of conditions, and so on, to slowly comprehend emptiness. Those with sharp faculties, however, can directly enter the gate of nirvāṇa through the fundamental contemplation of Prajñāpāramitā and Madhyamaka: 'All dharmas arise and appear through the combination of roots, objects, and consciousness.' That is to say, those with sharp faculties may not follow the sequential study of suffering, impermanence, and no-self; they can resolve attachment and enter nirvāṇa by observing that all dependent arisings are illusory and all illusory arisings are unarisen.

12. The Buddha said: 'Pratītyasamutpāda is deep, very deep; the quiescent nature of Pratītyasamutpāda (nirvāṇa) is even deeper and profound.' Pratītyasamutpāda refers to all existing, continuing things, including time, space, spirit, matter, motion (the cycle of the three realms is also a kind of motion phenomenon), and the principles and laws of things (karma and retribution are also a kind of law), all of which are formed based on certain causes and conditions. The quiescent nature of Pratītyasamutpāda points to the intrinsic nature of all existing and continuing dharmas—obviously being impermanent, arising and ceasing, full of suffering, defects, and unease; more profoundly being illusory and unreal, like dreams, flowers in the sky, moon in the water, mirages, and reflections; and ultimately being quiescent and unarisen—nirvāṇa.

        13.     ‘Anything dependent on conditions for existence is fundamentally unreal, like a dream.’ The core meaning of Prajñāpāramitā Madhyamaka is a truth that is easily understood and explained by ordinary Buddhist learners, but difficult to truly believe, accept, and practice.

**14.** From a Buddhist perspective, the human body and mind—referred to as the five aggregates (skandhas)—are all born from conditions, without inherent subjectivity, autonomy, or an independent core. Terms like 'you,' 'me,' 'he,' 'society,' 'nation,' 'world,' as well as concepts like 'emotion,' 'rationality,' 'justice,' and 'happiness,' are all relatively provisional and temporary composite concepts. The more one recognizes this fact of phenomena, the more one will distance themselves from pride and self-assurance. Therefore, a humble and soft personality is not merely a form of cultivation, but a manifestation in accordance with the truth.

**15.** The phenomena of life are temporary illusions manifesting from the combination of conditions. For convenience, we provisionally name these as 'you,' 'me,' 'he,' but in reality, in the moment-to-moment arising and ceasing, there is no fixed form that can be called a 'dharma,' and in the gathering and dispersing, there is no independent form that can be called 'self.' Just as the sky and the sea do not inherently have boundaries or differences between the four great oceans, initially, names were established according to convention, and eventually, they became ingrained. If asked, 'Where is the soul of the Pacific Ocean?'

**16.** Sentient beings have not broken the 'view of a personal self' (sakkāya-diṭṭhi), so for them, there are unchanging time and space, heaven and hell, Buddhas and Māras, Arhats and Bodhisattvas, the first, second, and subsequent stages of sainthood, all because of 'self-view'—a confused thought and mental state. If one day the self-view is broken, all conceptual elaborations will cease. Because all these distinctions are based on the premise of self-view, self-view is like the coordinates of motion. With the coordinates, motion is possible. When this firm coordinate—self-view—is broken, the world becomes one of infinite light, infinite life, and inconceivable phenomena.

**17.** An unenlightened person, when talking about ancient Chan masters or Buddhas and Bodhisattvas, always holds self-view in their mind—seeing the Sixth Patriarch, Yongjia, Huangbo, Linji, and Nanquan as separate 'entities' and viewing Avalokiteśvara Bodhisattva as 'one' Bodhisattva—this is evidence of not yet being enlightened. A truly enlightened person, from the perspective of their mind's eye, sees only dependent origination, not individual selves. They do not view Bodhisattvas, patriarchs, or even sentient beings as separate 'entities.' They do not hold the view of 'individuality' among sentient beings, which is called 'personality view' (pudgala-dṛṣṭi) in Buddhism; nor do they arise the view of 'self' within themselves—'view of a personal self' (sakkāya-diṭṭhi). They see only dependent origination and merely play within dependent origination.

**18.** People can naturally be free and unobstructed, but due to the mistaken identification of 'body and mind as self,' a deep-rooted habitual force forms, even becoming 'effortless.' Thus, afflictions are continuous, and suffering arises. By falsely grasping the body as self and thoughts and feelings as self, one naturally becomes concerned only with their own body and mind (including feelings, sensations, thoughts, ideas, memories, impressions, and experiences), and to protect these two, they fall into blind biases, contradictions, and emptiness. Like flies, they are quickly waved away but soon return to the original place—all their concerns and attachments are only centered on their own body and mind, unable to step outside the five elements and become free people.

**19.** I often tell fellow practitioners, 'Life is like a pile of mud; don't roar in it!' What does 'roar' mean? It means getting emotionally agitated, shouting and yelling; here, it also refers to being high-spirited, arrogant, self-assured, affectionate, greedy, anxious, and uneasy. Over the years, I have deeply felt that life really has nothing much to it! Life quickly passes! The current body, eyes, ears, nose, tongue, heart, liver, spleen, lungs, hands, feet, tendons, bones, blood, flesh, fat, as well as memory, experience, perception, and thoughts, I feel they are just a heap of combinations. They belong to unknowable conditions, not to me.

**20.** Ordinary people cannot be at ease or follow conditions because they do not believe in or understand the Buddha's teaching that 'life is like a dream.' They are deceived by their own eyes, their own consciousness, and by the eyes and consciousness of others. They mistakenly believe that time, space, objects, motion, and even mental phenomena, psychological activities, philosophical principles, and so on, all truly exist—since their mindset takes all these as real and serious, how can they not be stubborn? How can they move toward liberation?

**21.** People mistakenly believe that everything is real, so they 'seriously' cling and 'seriously' let go. Thus, whether clinging or letting go, they do not understand the Madhyamaka (Middle Way).

**22.** If one cannot correctly see and contemplate the impermanence of all conditioned things (saṃskāra) and the no-self nature (anātman) of all dharmas, freeing the mind from all notions of reality and self-view, no matter how happy or carefree or how ascetic their practice, they will never be associated with the liberation of the Buddha's teachings.

**23.** 'All dharmas are unattainable' does not mean that because the practitioner has a mind of non-attainment, all dharmas are unattainable. Rather, all dharmas are inherently without core, without substance, unreal, and unattainable!

**24.** True practice is not for escaping saṃsāra in the future but is driven by the urgent need to free oneself from suffering. Everywhere in life, we see people suffering intensely due to a lack of wisdom, which is an evident fact. Although the five aggregates are without self, karma and retribution still exist. If one really swallows a nail, it will rupture the stomach; if one jumps from a roof, they will be bloodied and broken—this is not negated by the no-self nature of the five aggregates.

Perhaps it can be said that humans rarely act purely for the 'self,' since 'self' is just a concept. What humans truly yearn for, roar about, are countless desires and greed—and it is these desires and greed that cause their body and mind to suffer. Our practice focuses on believing, understanding, practicing, and realizing the emptiness of dependent origination and no-self. This emptiness can heal our present suffering caused by desires and greed, while escaping future saṃsāra is just a natural, inevitable result.

**25.** Since all dharmas arise from conditions, and conditions are inherently without self-nature (nissvabhava), all dharmas in the world, although vividly present, are ultimately unborn (ajata), have never existed from the start! Since all dharmas in the world have never existed from the start, naturally, there is no issue of arising or ceasing! Given that everything is without issue, how can there be true regret in the heart of a Buddhist disciple?

 

Continuation from Part 1:

 

People intuitively feel that death is real and true, leading to a fear of death. If one can see through the illusion that pleasure, pain, birth, and death are like dreams, then they can free themselves from the fear of death.

The stream of life is without beginning or end. Although the phenomena of "death" appear due to the coming together of conditions, it is not a termination, just a change in form. Those who have insight into dependent origination understand the principles of samsara and maintain clear mindfulness at all times, keeping themselves in a simple, pure world.

People might say that at least the present can be grasped. But what does "present" mean? It is merely the image produced in the brain when the eye nerves come into contact with the external environment.

A practitioner proficient in śamatha (calm abiding) and vipaśyanā (insight) can confirm in a blink that the world is truly like a dream, knowing that the images of the world arise in relation to one's eye faculties as illusions.

The path to the goal is not the goal itself. The principle of dependent origination and emptiness, although it can indeed distance one from delusion and dreams, is not the ultimate reality or nirvāṇa itself. Thus, explaining that "all dharmas are merely nominal" will not cause sentient beings to lose the path to liberation. The Chan (Zen) assertion that "all words are expedient means" does not contradict the Prajñāpāramitā Madhyamaka philosophy.

Actually, "The Great Sage spoke of emptiness to free one from all views." Emptiness and dependent origination should not be considered the highest philosophical presupposition. Thinking that the theory of dependent origination is the highest, unchanging truth goes against the Buddha's original intention in presenting dependent origination and emptiness. The scriptures state, "To save sentient beings, the ultimate emptiness is taught." In reality, "emptiness itself is empty" and "emptiness is merely nominal" are points we should be mindful of.

When Buddhism says "everything is empty," it does not mean everything is meaningless or non-existent. It tells us that nothing is absolute, permanent, or real, hoping that people will not cling to things. This concept of emptiness will not lead to negativity; it only makes people tolerant, unobstructed, and refreshed.

All dharmas lack a fixed nature and are in a constant state of change. Therefore, any notion of something being unchanging, absolute, or eternal is a foolish view.

Since we live in a relative world, we must adhere to the general rules of the world. When worldly sages say something exists, we should also say it exists. When they say it does not exist, we should say it does not exist. However, from the highest perspective, we must affirm that good and evil arise from causes and conditions, and there is no fixed, unchanging, absolute, or real significance. Furthermore, for one who sees the quiescent nature of dependent origination, their actions are solely for the benefit of others. They do whatever benefits sentient beings. Since "evil" is harmful to sentient beings and "good" is beneficial to sentient beings, they naturally encourage people to avoid all evil and cultivate all good. Although they teach "avoid all evil and cultivate all good," they do not have a real sense of good and evil, understanding that these are dependent origination and born of the mind.

Worldly good and bad are composed of causes and conditions. For example, is a knife good or bad? It is not definite; with certain causes and conditions, a knife is good; with others, it is bad. In some situations, it can be said to be bad, and in others, it can be said to be good. The view of good and bad should not be fixed, which is the attitude of a practitioner.

Worldly matters often appear simple on the surface, but a deeper investigation reveals that many small daily things contain profound principles.

The entire network of causes and conditions is a web-like causal system, where pulling one hair can move the whole body. Thus, any issue is not a simple one, and a deeper investigation often shows hundreds of issues behind each one. The emergence of one issue often affects the arising of other issues.

I believe that "all dharmas arise from causes and conditions," and the arising of dharmas under the same conditions is universally inevitable and follows an invariable order. However, the problem is, given the endless interconnected causes and conditions of the world and the constantly flowing five aggregates (skandhas) of body and mind, who can grasp the exact same conditions completely?

Most worldly matters have various aspects of appearance and essence, near and far, high and low. Each matter is complex, containing contradictory yet unified contents.

People become what their environment shapes them into. Everyone has the potential to change because no one is fixed; everything is due to causes and conditions. Therefore, practitioners have no fixed views about people and things and are not attached.

Causes and conditions are truly inconceivable. In the vast expanse of time and space and the myriad human world, people with different background conditions come together!

All dharmas and worldly matters arising from causes and conditions are inherently integrated, and even the term "integrated" cannot fully describe their close relationship. They cannot be forcibly separated as "this is you," "this is me," or "that is him." The notions of "you," "me," and "him" are illusions arising from the ignorance of the three marks of existence (trilakṣaṇa), which are superfluous, unreal, and products of deluded dreams. In burning away all these illusions, there is only "seeing" without a "seer"; only "suffering" without a "sufferer"; only "acting" without an "actor." Sentient beings have compassion because "everyone" arises from causes and conditions! Furthermore, the Mahayana scriptures emphasize that "everyone can become a Buddha" because of causes and conditions!

Past events and future events may feel dream-like to us, but we do not perceive the present as a dream. In reality, both the future and the past are dreams; does the present have any real essence? The "present" is at most just a second, and once a second passes, it cannot be retrieved.

In the world of dependent origination, what is high is not high, and what is low is not low. Everything is closely interconnected.

The causes and conditions of sentient beings vary! From my impression of reading the Buddhist scriptures, there were sentient beings that Venerable Ananda could not save, but Venerable Sariputra could. Similarly, there were those Venerable Kassapa could not save, but Venerable Anuruddha could. Thus, causes and conditions are not fixed.

The world is like a banana tree, covered layer upon layer by banana leaves—formed by endless overlapping causes and conditions, creating the world. But if the causes and conditions, like banana leaves, are peeled away one by one, there is no self, no dharma to be found. Impermanence is the appearance and phenomenon of the world, while its essence and nature are without self-nature.

Infinite causes and conditions only form a phenomenon called "events." Although we can say that infinite causes and conditions form an event, in our minds we must understand that infinite causes and conditions only form the composite illusion called an event.

From the perspective of dependent origination, all people, events, and things are finite; there is no perfect group or individual in the world. As long as the general direction is towards the path of Buddhahood, everything is not in vain.

Although heat and cold are not absolute, being scalded by boiling water still causes injury. Thus, ignorance of objective relative truth still causes us suffering. Similarly, although there is no absolute truth, understanding objective relative truth can still lead to the elimination of suffering.

In the world of dependent origination, one cannot find pure, complete, transcendental, absolute objectivity—what is generally called objectivity is also a kind of standpoint, whether leaning left, right, or centered.

Buddhism's theory of dependent origination tells us that everything manifests based on causes and conditions. Things that manifest based on causes and conditions are inherently impermanent and changeable—possessing infinite possibilities. From known and visible causes and conditions, we might say something is "impossible," but if we take an absolutely rigorous standpoint, we should acknowledge that all phenomena contain the potential for change and possibility. 

 

“缘起性空是什么意思?(上)

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1.缘起性空的思想,概要言之只是:一切法由于无自性,因此得以随缘幻现;幻现的一切法,虽然历历在目,但却如梦幻泡影、如露亦如电。当我们真正信解这个道理之后,则当戏论灭尽,与人无诤讼,同时内心了无牵挂。接着,人生仅剩的唯是,行所当行,受所当受--而实无功德。

2.佛教的宇宙论是比较倾向现象论,而不是形而上学的本体论,就是以经验可及的现象来剖析它的本质到底是什么?此外佛教也不是纯粹的宇宙现象论,它更进一步是一种摆脱痛苦的方法,它的重点是在摆脱人类一切的痛苦。为了要摆脱人类一切的痛苦,佛陀发现痛苦是源自于人们对现象的曲解。佛陀由于发现众生这种对现象曲解、扭曲的认知,将带给自他无边的苦恼,从而提出缘起性空、缘起无我的思想(方法)以对治之。所以缘起无我不仅是佛教对客观现象的解释,同时也是佛教达到灭苦的方法。

3.一切都只是功能和现象的变化而已,此中并没有生命,也没有身体和意识——我所了解的佛法只是这样。

4.‘缘起无我论’或‘缘起(毕竟)空义’是佛教的根本思想。任何团体及个人倘若观念偏离缘起空义,将不被承认是佛教的一员。尽管它仍然可能是伟大的宗教、严密的哲学或道德情操令人敬重的个人。

5.佛法本无多,真正可以超生了死、渡出苦海的并没有几句话。学问在于广博,要学要读的很多,但修行是愈少愈好。中观般若那么多,但说起来,只是‘缘起’二个字而已。如果有人能深解缘起的甚深义,那么,当下便可远离戏论了!有人说‘弱水三千,我只取一瓢而饮。’一瓢饮就能解渴了,但如果站在河边,细数流水三千而不取饮,那就只好渴死河边了。

6.缘起无我义,这是非常深的佛教义理,佛陀曾说:‘缘起甚深极甚深!’虽然我们常闻佛教徒云‘缘起、缘起’,但真正了解缘起无我义的人,相对于口说缘起者,比例恐怕是非常少的。

7.什么叫做‘缘起’:缘起就是说很多条件来呈现、完成一件事情;什么叫‘性空’:就是说一切事物既然都是条件的组合,那么它们就不会有自己的本性、自己的个性,没有不变性、永恒性、和自主性

就是这样而已。

8.缘起无我的大意是:一、有情的 存在,不是没有原因的,他们之所以出现在世间,际遇报应各有不同,乃依无明意识和业的力量所造。二、有情长劫轮回于三界,展现种种不同的生命状态,并营造出不同的身心活动,但这些状态和活动,都只是根、境、识和合的假相,没有实体、没有核心,而且变化不居、迁流不息。无我的理趣,扼要的说,虽只是以上两点,但对于执着感官经验、迷信唯物思想且一向散乱的广大群生而言,是多么难以理解的!尤其是意欲掌握缘起无我的心要,并援引心要融入生活净化三业,以至于断渴爱、灭戏论、寂静无诤、任运随缘之境,对于是非心重、诤胜心强的有情,更是难上加难!

9.现象有两部份,即现象的表相和现象的本质。现象的表相是指一切有因有缘而生起、逝灭的人、物、理、事(含三世轮回、因果业报);现象的本质则是无常、无我、空。不见空者,非佛教;离现象之表相而论空者,非正解空义的人。由于三世轮回、因果业报非具足四禅八定难以现观(唯能信解),而表相更是无量无边,修行人也无法一一遍观,所以现代禅建议行人,应特重未到地定,随时随地活在眼前一瞬,并集中心力观五蕴皆空即可。因为未到地定坚固者便能作深观,而真能照见五蕴皆空者,便可止息贪嗔得解脱。

10.佛教所说‘诸法如幻’,它和‘业报不失’是一并讲的,可说是一体之两面。说山河大地如梦幻泡影其前提是承认世间有山河大地;说财富名利如梦幻泡影,当然是肯定财富名利的存在,然后才说它们是如梦幻泡影的;说六道轮回如梦如幻,同样也是肯定六道轮回、业报不失的现象。如梦如幻的空义,并没有否定如梦如幻的事实——修禅的人如果没有认清此点,则易陷入断灭空之中。

11.佛说‘缘起甚深极甚深’,空义的通达是不容易的。钝根的人必须从很多方面的观察,才能慢慢了解空,他起先要从‘世间是短暂的、痛苦的’‘人性是卑鄙、绝情、善变的’‘人生如客居旅店,最后还是双手空空’‘社会充斥着伪装、作秀、包装和宣传’‘世事都是刻意、作为的结果,是各种条件的组合’……等等角度的省思、感触之后,才能渐渐信解空义。而利根的人却直从‘诸法是根境识和合而呈现的’——般若中观的这一根本理趣的思惟观察便可步入涅盘门。也就是说,利根的人未必遵从苦、无常、无我的次第学习起,他单从缘生即幻生、幻生即无生的观察,便能化解贪着顺入涅盘。

12.佛说:‘缘起甚深极甚深,缘起之寂灭性(涅盘)倍复甚深极甚深。’‘缘起’是指一切存在、延续的人、物、理、事,包含时间、空间、精神、物质、运动(‘三世轮回’也是一种运动现象),以及事物的理则和定律(‘因果业报’也是一种定律),这一切皆基于一定的原因和次第所形成。‘缘起之寂灭性’则指向这存在、延续的一切法的本性——粗显的是生灭无常、迁流不住,充满痛苦、缺陷和不安;深刻些的是虚幻不实,就如同梦境、空花、水月、阳焰、海市蜃楼;而最极幽隐的是寂静无生——涅盘。

13.‘凡是依赖因缘而存在的事物,其本身就如梦幻一般不真实。’般若中观的根本奥义,对于普遍学佛者而言,是一种容易被理解、演说,却难以被信仰、接受、奉行的真理。

14.从佛教的观点来看,人类的身心——也就是‘五蕴’都是‘因缘所生’,没有主体性、自主性,不是单一、自成、有核心的存在;人们通说的‘你’‘我’‘他’‘社会’‘国家’‘世界’,以及‘感情’‘理智’‘正义’‘幸福’……等等的一切,其实都是相对、权宜、暂时安立的复合性概念。对这一现象事实,越有认识的人,则会越远离憍慢自恃。因此说,谦卑柔软的人格,不单是涵养而已,实是相应真理的表现。

15.生命的现象乃是因缘和合暂时呈现的幻相,我们为了方便起见,权且安立假名说这是‘你’、‘我’、‘他’,但事实上刹那生灭中并没有可称之为‘法’的固定相,和合积聚中也没有可称之为‘我’的独立相;就如虚空与大海本没有国界和四大洋之别,先前乃随俗立名,最后则积非成是,问道:‘太平洋的灵魂在哪里?’

16.众生因为‘萨迦耶见’未破,所以对他来讲,世间有一成不变的时间、空间,有天堂、地狱,有佛、有魔、有阿罗汉、有菩萨,有初果、二果,有五、六、七、八……等等,这些都是因为‘自性见’——‘迷惑的思想和心态’才有的。若有一朝自性见破除了,所有的戏论,就通通息灭。因为上述的一切分别,都是以自性见为前提,自性见就像运动时的座标一样,有了座标才有运动可言。而当这座坚固的座标——自性见打破时,世界就是无量光、无量寿、不可思议的世界了。

17.一个尚未开悟的人,当他在谈论古代禅师或佛菩萨的时候,都含有自性见在胸中——以个别的‘单位’看待六祖、永嘉、黄檗、临济、南泉等人,也把观世音菩萨当做是‘一个’菩萨——这也是还未开悟的证明。而一个真正开悟的人,从他的心眼看出,则只见因缘,不见人我。他不会把菩萨、祖师,甚至众生当做个别的‘单位’来看待,他于众生中不起人见,也就是佛学上所说的‘补特伽罗见’;也不会于自己生起我见——‘萨迦耶见’,他只见缘起,并在缘起中游戏而已。

18.人本来是可以自在无碍的,却因误认‘身心是我’,且形成根深蒂固的惯性,甚至已成‘无功用’了,所以烦恼不断,苦惑丛生。由于妄执身体是我,思惟、感受是我,自然变得只关心自己的身体和意识(包括感受、感觉、感想、思考、思想、记忆、印象、经验),也为了保护这两样东西,陷于盲目偏见、矛盾空虚之中。就像苍蝇一般,刚刚才挥走,很快就又飞回原来的地方——一切所关心、挂碍的都只在一己身心上,没办法跳出五行外,成为自由人。

19.常对同修说:‘人生就像烂泥巴堆,不要在当中咆哮!’什么是咆哮?咆哮就是情绪激动大吼大叫;在此,也是指意气风发、傲慢自恃、眷恋贪爱、紧张不安……等等。多年来我深深痛感人生真的没有什么!人生很快就过去了!眼前当下的身体,眼、耳、鼻、舌、心、肝、脾、肺、手、脚、筋、骨、血、肉、脂肪,以及记忆、经验、知觉、思惟……,我都感到它们只是一堆组合物而已,它们属不可知的因缘,不属于我。

20.一般人之所以不能悠闲、不能随缘,是因为他们不相信也不了解佛说‘人生如梦’的道理,他们被自己的眼睛、自己的意识以及众人的眼睛、众人的意识所蒙蔽;误认时间、空间、物体、运动……以及精神现象、心理活动、哲学义理……等等都是真实存在的——心态上既然对存在的这一切‘当真’‘认真’,又怎么能够不固执?又怎么能够趋向解脱呢?

21.人们因为误认事事物物都是真的,所以‘很当真’地执着,也‘很当真’地放下,因此,无论是执着、还是放下,都是不解中观的人。

22.倘不能正见正观诸行无常、诸法无我,心离一切实在感、自性见,则无论如何快乐逍遥或刻苦修行,永远和佛门之解脱是没有交涉的。

23.‘诸法无所得’并不是因为修行者具无所得之心,诸法才无所得,而是诸法本来就是无核、无体、无实、无所得!

24.真正的修行并不是为了日后的摆脱轮回,而是人类皆有‘脱离痛苦’的热切需要。生活中随处可见人们由于缺乏智慧,导致身心苦痛、无限煎熬,这是眼前明显不过的事实;同时,尽管五蕴无我,但因果业报还是有的,如果真的把铁钉吃下去,则会肚破肠流,真的从屋顶往下跳,则会血肉模糊——并不因为五蕴无我是现象界的事实。

或许可以这样说,人类很少为了‘我’,因为‘我’只是一种概念,人类真正朝思暮想、咆哮怒吼的是数不尽的欲望和贪婪——并且也因这些欲望和贪婪使他身心痛苦。而我们修行所重视的,是信、解、行、证缘起无我空义,这空义可以疗愈我们因欲望和贪婪所引生之当下苦,至于脱离未来轮回之苦,只是水到渠成、法尔如是的自然结果。

25.由于诸法因缘生,因缘生即无自性,无自性的世间一切法,虽然体相历历在目,但究其真实,到底不生、无生、从本不曾存在过!从本不存在过的世间一切法,当然也丝毫不会有如何灭、如何消除的问题!既然一切都没问题,那么佛弟子内心怎么会有真正的遗憾呢?

推荐:佛教基本知识”

 

Continuation from Part 1:

 

人們直覺死亡是實在的、真實的,由於這種感受,導致我們對死亡的恐懼。如果能看穿苦樂生死如夢幻一般的虛假,則可擺脫死亡的恐懼。

生命之流無始無終,因緣和合雖有「死亡」現象的呈現——但不是斷滅,唯是形態的不同。對緣起有洞見的人,明白輪迴的原理,他隨時隨地保持正念分明,讓自己恆常處在單純、清淨的世界裡。

也許人們可說,至少現在是捉得到;可是「現在」是什麼意思呢?其實也只是眼神經和外境接觸,大腦裡所產生的影像而已!

熟嫻止觀的修行人,只要稍眨個眼,就能確認世間真的如夢一般,因為他知道世間的影像,乃是相對自己的眼根而幻現的。

通往目標的道路,並不等於目標本身;緣起——空的道理,雖然確實可以使人遠離顛倒夢想,但是它並不就是實相、涅槃本身。因此,演述「一切諸法,但有假名」之說,並不會導致眾生失去通往解脫的道路,主張「凡有言說,皆屬方便」的禪,也沒有與般若中觀的思想形成矛盾。

其實,「大聖說空法,為離諸見故」,空——緣起並不可做為哲學上的最高預設;認為「緣起論」是最高的真理、不變的理則,反而有違背佛陀最初提出緣起——空的本意。經上說:「為可度眾生,故說畢竟空。」其實「空亦復空」「空但有假名」……是我們應該留意的。

佛教所說的「一切皆空」,不是指一切都沒有意義,或者一切都沒有;而是告訴我們一切都不是絕對、不變、真實的,希望人們不要執著。這樣的空義,並不會導致消極,它只會使人寬容、無礙、清爽而已。

諸法無定相,一切皆在變化的過程中,所以任何有一不變、絕對、永遠,那就是愚癡論。

由於我們是活在相對世界的人,所以必須遵守世間一般的規則,世間智者說有,我們也應該說有;世間智者說無,我們也應該說無。不過從最高的立場來講,我們卻必須肯定善惡因緣生,並沒有「一定」「不變」「絕對」「實在」的意義存在。其次,對一個現觀緣起寂滅性的人而言,所行唯求利他,怎樣對眾生有利,他就怎麼去做。既然「惡」對眾生不利,「善」對眾生比較有利,他當然是勸大眾諸惡莫作,眾善奉行囉!他雖然講「諸惡莫作,眾善奉行」,但是對善惡不會有實在感,因為他明白,那些都是緣起的,都是心所生的。

世間好與不好是由因緣組成的,例如一把刀子,刀子不好嗎?刀子好嗎?不一定;有因有緣刀子好,有因有緣刀子不好。某種情形下可以說它不好,某種情形下可以說它好,好壞不是一定的。「不好的」在某些因緣改變後,可能成為「好」,「好的」在因緣改變後,可能變成「不好」。對人物、事理的看法,不要存有成見才是修行人的態度。

世間的事情,往往表面看起來很簡單,可是如果深入探究,許多日常生活中很微小的事,都蘊藏著許多深奧的道理。

整個因緣網,是一個網狀的因果體系,可謂牽一髮而動全身,所以任何一個問題,事實上並不是一個單純的問題而已,一旦深究起來,幾乎每一個問題的背後,都由上百個問題組成;並且一個問題的出現,也常影響到其他問題的相繼產生。

我覺得「諸法因緣生」,緣生法在相同的因緣條件下,其生起是有普遍的必然性和不可躐等的次第性,這是沒錯的,但問題是,重重無盡的世間因果、遷流不住的五蘊身心,誰能掌握完全相同的因緣呢?

人世間的事情大都含有表裏粗細、遠近高低各種不同面向的角度;直接說,每一件事情都複雜,都存有正反面,既矛盾又統一的內容。

給他什麼環境,他就會變成什麼樣的人。人都有改變的可能——因為沒有人,一切只是因緣。故對人、對事沒有固定見,不會執著。

因緣實在不可思議,浩瀚無邊的時空、人海茫茫的塵世,不同因緣背景的人,竟然會聚在一起!

因緣生的一一法、人事地物,原原本本是渾然一體的,甚至連「渾然一體」都無法形容他們之間密切的關係,那是無法將之強力切割曰「這是你」「這是我」「那是他」;你、我、他(它)乃是有情昧於三法印而起的錯覺,這種錯覺是多餘的、非實的、顛倒夢想的產物。在燃燒這一切錯覺的當下,祇有「見」而沒有「見者」;祇有「苦」而無「受苦者」;祇有「行」而無「行事者」……,有情之所以會有悲心,實在乃因「大家」都是因——緣——生哪!不僅如此,大乘經典之所以在在強調「人人皆可成佛」也是因為因——緣——生哪!

過去的事、未來的事,我們還容易有如夢之感,但對於眼前的、現在的一切,我們就不覺它像夢了,其實,未來、過去都是夢;現在,又何嘗有真實的本質呢?「現在」最多也只是一秒而已,一秒過去後,再也沒有辦法追回了。

緣起的世界,高者不是高,低者不是低,大家都緊緊密密地連在一起。

眾生的因緣各有不同啊!據我讀佛經的印象,曾有阿難尊者沒辦法度的眾生,而舍利弗尊者就有辦法度了;也有迦葉尊者沒辦法度的,而阿那律尊者卻能度。所以因緣是不一定的。

世間很像芭蕉樹,被層層次次的芭蕉葉包著--由無盡的因緣重疊覆蓋著,形成世間。可是如果把如同芭蕉葉的世間因緣一個個解開,則找不到一個我、一個法。無常是世間的表相、現象,它的實質、體性則是無自性的。

無限的因緣只成就某一被稱為「事情」的現象;雖然我們在言語的表達可以講無限因緣成就一件事情,但是在心裏要明白,無限因緣只成就了被稱為事情的和合幻象而已。

從緣起的觀點,任何人事物都是有限的,世上並無十全十美的團體或個人,只要大方向是往成佛之道邁進,則一切都功不唐捐。

冷熱雖不是絕對的,但如果被開水燙到,一樣會受傷。因此,昧於客觀相對的真理一樣會使我們產生痛苦;同樣的,雖然沒有絕對的真理,但認識相對客觀的真理仍然能夠導致痛苦的消除。

緣起的世間,找不到純粹、徹底、超然、絕對的客觀——一般所謂的客觀其實也是一種立場,無論偏左偏右或居中。

佛教的「緣起論」告訴我們,一切都是依因託緣而呈現的。依因託緣而呈現的事物,其本身註定是無常變幻——存有無限的可能性。也許就已知的因緣、可見的因緣來說,吾人不妨說「不可能」,但是倘若站在絕對嚴謹的立場言之,應該承認存在的現象,都含有變化性和可能性的。

 

[7/7/24, 5:54:03 PM] John Tan: Do u know that contemplating dependent arising must ultimately lead to dependent designation?
[7/7/24, 6:33:15 PM] John Tan: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3wvQm1DnFxdKDx74f1P0lLNxN1c-Hruc&si=OD0jIAG62vWAEc3O
[7/7/24, 7:19:37 PM] Soh Wei Yu: Yeah..
[7/7/24, 7:19:59 PM] Soh Wei Yu: But only prasangika madhyamaka realizes it right, lower tenets up to yogacara and maybe some madhyamaka arent totally clear
[7/7/24, 7:21:03 PM] Soh Wei Yu: Even then the sravaka arhat must have realised some degree of dependent designation like vajira expressed:
[7/7/24, 7:21:31 PM] John Tan: I suppose so.  What did he say?
[7/7/24, 7:21:36 PM] Soh Wei Yu: “Why do you believe there’s such a thing as a ‘sentient being’?

Māra, is this your theory?

This is just a pile of conditions,

you won’t find a sentient being here.

When the parts are assembled

we use the word ‘chariot’.

So too, when the aggregates are present

‘sentient being’ is the convention we use.

But it’s only suffering that comes to be,

lasts a while, then disappears.

Naught but suffering comes to be,

naught but suffering ceases.” - Vajira Sutta (https://suttacentral.net/sn5.10/en/sujato?lang=en&layout=plain&reference=none&notes=asterisk&highlight=false&script=latin)
[7/7/24, 7:22:11 PM] John Tan: Wow 👍
[7/7/24, 7:23:17 PM] John Tan: Yes, only lack two folds.
[7/7/24, 7:23:46 PM] Soh Wei Yu: I see.. yeah non arising of aggregates isnt taught
[7/7/24, 7:27:40 PM] John Tan: It doesn't mean because they r conventionally designated, it doesn't exist ultimately and is not important.  This is essential mode of thinking.  

Because there r no inherently existing things, that is y nominal existence become important.

 

 

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Comments by Soh: 

There's another famous Sravaka Arhat - Nagasena, who taught and elaborated on the insight of chariot and dependent designation. Nagasena's writing was what triggered in John Tan a preliminary insight into Emptiness decades ago. See: +A and -A Emptiness and The Questions of King Milinda (As Answered by the Arahant, Nagasena)

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It is more crucial to realise Presence. Your descriptions in the past were more of non doership and impersonality.
Also there is a difference between deity mysticism of fulcrum 8 and the I AM realization of the higher causal realization of fulcrum 9 to put it in ken wilber’s terms ( https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Radical-Wholeness-Integral-Delight-ebook/dp/B0CLR9BB9V/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.eVWO2U0-EVznAVGYt3zt-DDYxPqSNnP9SHXRHzYAJj9VWPG7w3YjIvyR7dPVMFW407f4j4zXFMCTmfnRrwbmAhns1E9Oavka7y0qbMOpetMR3fG3AfU9I0U-x530c5owAuZzJpAwHztzsAHLLw1rDjNEQS9QVH2fayceeKQoEbVSDehEP3RTxKWNwjh3Smq8XPZCEEnwsP2zbAi4PdC4LA.GXUGkfTaPCXmJJb1yqOlIpLCVpxunc2kurBm5rCv2nY&dib_tag=se&keywords=ken+wilber&qid=1717909959&sr=8-1 )

https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2017/11/anatta-and-pure-presence.html
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Anatta and Pure Presence
Someone told me about having been through insights of no self and then progressing to a realisation of the ground of being.
I replied:
Hi ____
Thanks for the sharing.
This is the I AM realization. Had that realisation after contemplating Before birth, who am I? For two years. It’s an important realization. Many people had insights into certain aspects of no self, impersonality, and “dry non dual experience” without doubtless realization of Presence. Therefore I AM realisation is a progression for them.
Similarly in Zen, asking who am I is to directly experience presence. How about asking a koan of what is the cup? What is the chirping bird, the thunder clap? What is its purpose?
When I talked about anatta, it is a direct insight of Presence and recognizing what we called background presence, is in the forms and colours, sounds and sensations, clean and pure. Authentication is be authenticated by all things. Also there is no presence other than that. What we call background is really just an image of foreground Presence, even when Presence is assuming its subtle formless all pervasiveness.
However due to ignorance, we have a very inherent and dual view, if we do see through the nature of presence, the mind continues to be influenced by dualistic and inherent tendencies. Many teach to overcome it through mere non conceptuality but this is highly misleading.
Thusness also wrote:
The anatta I realized is quite unique. It is not just a realization of no-self. But it must first have an intuitive insight of Presence. Otherwise will have to reverse the phases of insights
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Soh Wei Yu my friend, when you mean Presence it can be the Awareness?

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Mr. KS
They mean the same thing as john said:
“Hi Mr. H,
In addition to what you wrote, I hope to convey another dimension of Presence to you. That is Encountering Presence in its first impression, unadulterated and full blown in stillness.
So after reading it, just feel it with your entire body-mind and forgot about it. Don't let it corrupt your mind.😝
Presence, Awareness, Beingness, Isness are all synonyms. There can be all sorts of definitions but all these are not the path to it. The path to it must be non-conceptual and direct. This is the only way.
When contemplating the koan "before birth who am I", the thinking mind attempts to seek into it's memory bank for similar experiences to get an answer. This is how the thinking mind works - compare, categorize and measure in order to understand.
However, when we encounter such a koan, the mind reaches its limit when it tries to penetrate its own depth with no answer. There will come a time when the mind exhausts itself and come to a complete standstill and from that stillness comes an earthshaking BAM!
I. Just I.
Before birth this I, a thousand years ago this I, a thousand later this I. I AM I.
It is without any arbitrary thoughts, any comparisons. It fully authenticates it's own clarity, it's own existence, ITSELF in clean, pure, direct non-conceptuality. No why, no because.
Just ITSELF in stillness nothing else.
Intuit the vipassana and the samantha. Intuit the total exertion and realization. The essence of message must be raw and uncontaminated by words.
Hope that helps!” - John Tan, 2019
-- excerpt from the abridged AtR guide, which you can read for self-enquiry pointers: https://app.box.com/s/zc0suu4dil01xbgirm2r0rmnzegxaitq

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Soh Wei Yu thanks! last thing: where i can read about the awareness that tibetans point and if this awareness has an essence or not?

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Mr. KS For the Tibetans, awareness is empty in nature. But usually one realises the clarity aspect first before realizing emptiness, and this is so even for vast majority of the Tibetan and Zen practitioners.
See partial excerpt from: https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2020/09/the-degrees-of-rigpa.html

John Tan's reply on something Malcolm wrote in 2020:
“This is like what I tell you and essentially emphasizing 明心非见性. 先明心, 后见性. (Soh: Apprehending Mind is not seeing [its] Nature. First apprehend Mind, later realise [its] Nature).
First is directly authenticating mind/consciousness 明心 (Soh: Apprehending Mind). There is the direct path like zen sudden enlightenment of one's original mind or mahamudra or dzogchen direct introduction of rigpa or even self enquiry of advaita -- the direct, immediate, perception of "consciousness" without intermediaries. They are the same.
However that is not realization of emptiness. Realization of emptiness is 见性 (Soh: Seeing Nature). Imo there is direct path to 明心 (Soh: Apprehending Mind) but I have not seen any direct path to 见性 (Soh: Seeing Nature) yet. If you go through the depth and nuances of our mental constructs, you will understand how deep and subtle the blind spots are.
Therefore emptiness or 空性 (Soh: Empty Nature) is the main difference between buddhism and other religions. Although anatta is the direct experiential taste of emptiness, there is still a difference between buddhist's anatta and selflessness of other religions -- whether it is anatta by experiential taste of the dissolution of self alone or the experiential taste is triggered by wisdom of emptiness.
The former focused on selflessness and whole path of practice is all about doing away with self whereas the latter is about living in the wisdom of emptiness and applying that insight and wisdom of emptiness to all phenomena.
As for emptiness there is the fine line of seeing through inherentness of Tsongkhapa and there is the emptiness free from extremes by Gorampa. Both are equally profound so do not talk nonsense and engaged in profane speech as in terms of result, ultimately they are the same (imo).”
Dalai Lama - "Nature - there are many different levels. Conventional level, one nature. There are also, you see, different levels. Then, ultimate level, ultimate reality... so simply realise the Clarity of the Mind, that is the conventional level. That is common with Hindus, like that. So we have to know these different levels...." - Dalai Lama on Anatta and Emptiness of Buddha Nature in New Book

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On the empty nature of Awareness in Tibetan tradition, see:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz5etGfyB6Q - Malcolm Smith on Advaita Vedanta and Dzogchen

https://awakeningtoreality.blogspot.com/2014/02/clarifications-on-dharmakaya-and-basis_16.html
- Long elaborate explanation by Dzogchen teacher Acarya Malcolm Smith on Dzogchen basis (and also why it differs from realist views)

https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2007/03/self-liberation-through-seeing-with.html - Self-Liberation through Seeing with Naked Awareness - A Dzogchen text by Padmasambhava, pithy and wonderful text

https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2022/02/a-letter-to-almaas-on-dzogchen-and.html

https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2022/04/establishing-inner-perceiver-as-well-as.html

https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2009/09/rigpa-and-aggregates.html

Others can probably provide even more links

Also check this out, Mahamudra:

https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2020/06/the-royal-seal-of-mahamudra-volume-one.html

https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2015/12/self-liberation-by-khamtrul-rinpoche-iii.html

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“Qn: I’m often wondering how understanding necessarily emptiness changes the way we relate to phenomena. For instance, how does this realization make my mind free from afflictions like anger, craving, clinging and so on?


Kyle (Krodha) replied:


Anger, craving and clinging are activities that in most cases, assume a subject-object duality. There is the assumption of a self that is interacting with objects, and that this self-entity as an agent can crave, cling, become angry at a foreign object or person that exists separately (from said self).


The experiential realization of emptiness collapses this subject-object duality so that there is no experience of a substantial inner reference point relating to external phenomena. The realization of emptiness also nullifies external entities, and reveals that outer phenomena are misconceptions, abstractions. Both sides of the dichotomy are uprooted, the self that can become angry, or crave, and the external phenomena to become angry at, crave or cling to... both sides are seen as a misconception or abstraction.


Emptiness is like awakening to realize that the appearance of a snake lying on the ground in a dark room is actually just a rope. Prior to recognizing the nature of that appearance, the alleged snake was capable of conjuring all sorts of emotions, fear, curiosity, worry, and so on. However, once the lights are turned on, and it is recognized that the snake was actually a rope all along, then the basis for fear, curiosity, worry and any other emotions or activities related to a snake are all evaporated instantly - because they were all predicated on a misconception.

In the same way, in realizing emptiness the basis for anger, craving and clinging would be evaporated instantly because they are also predicated on misconceptions.”


Kyle: “The Samādhirāja cited earlier says:


Young man, bodhisattva mahāsattvas who have become skilled in the wisdom of the nonexistent nature of all phenomena do not have desire for any form, sound, smell, taste, or touch. They do not become angry. They are never ignorant.

Why is that? It is because they do not see phenomena; there is no object to perceive. They do not see the phenomena of desire, the desire, or the desirer; that which angers, the anger, or one who is angry; nor that of which one is ignorant, the ignorance, or the one who is ignorant, and therefore there is no such object to perceive.


Because there is nothing to be seen and there is no object to perceive, they have no attachment to anything in the three realms and they will quickly attain this samādhi, and quickly attain the highest, complete enlightenment of perfect buddhahood.


On this topic, it has been said: All phenomena have no existence; They are all devoid of attributes and without characteristics, without birth and without cessation. That is how you should perfectly understand phenomena. Everything is without existence, without words, empty, peaceful, and primordially stainless. The one who knows phenomena, young man, that one is called a buddha.”

論無我,空性,摩訶與平凡,和自然圓滿

Translated from English to Chinese with the help of William, another friend, myself, and ChatGPT. 


請聆聽Audio版本:https://soundcloud.com/soh-wei-yu/johntan2009


Original English link:https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2009/03/on-anatta-emptiness-and-spontaneous.html



請看:Thusness “真如”/PasserBy “過路人”開悟的七個階段 - Chinese Translation of Thusness/PasserBy's Seven Stages of Enlightenment

請看:(Traditional Chinese) 佛性不是“我是/我在/本我” - Buddha Nature is NOT "I Am"


論無我,空性,摩訶與平凡,和自然圓滿



作者: John Tan, Thusness真如,PasserBy過路人


我很好奇,近日來,相關于"無我"的主題一直在論壇上被探討。大抵是"緣"分已至。接下來,我將簡略的分享一些我對"無我"的親身經歷。純粹分享,并不代表權威。


下面的兩節詩在我體驗"無我"中,起了至關重要的作用。雖然他們傳達了一樣的意思,但是冥想這兩節詩會產生不同的體驗頓悟 ,  一個是空性的角度,另一個則是無二元的光明。從這些體驗中所產生的頓悟是具有啟蒙性的,因為他們與我們通常理解中"什么是本覺"是相悖的。


有思維,沒有思想者.

有聽覺,沒有聽者.

有視覺,沒有觀者.


思考中,只有思想.

聆聽中,只有大音.

觀看中,只有形態,形狀與顏色.


在繼續進行之前,絕對重要的是要知道這些詩節無法通過推理,邏輯演繹或歸納來正確理解。 并不是說它們有什么神秘或超然的地方,只是心理喋喋不休的方式是一種"錯誤的方法"。 正確的技巧是通過Vipassana,毗婆舍那,意思是觀察如其本然的實相,或更直接和更專注與存粹,裸露的覺知方式,允許觀察事物的本來面目。 順便說一句,當非二元的洞見成熟時,這種覺知方式會變得自然,在此之前它可能會非常"費力"。


第一詩節.


從第一節的最初一瞥中得到的兩個最明顯的體驗是缺乏作者和缺乏主體的直觀洞見。 這兩個經歷是我七個階段的洞見中第五階段的關鍵。


1.缺乏鏈接和協調經驗的作者。


沒有"我"的聯系,現象,思想,聲音,感受等等,就會像泡沫一樣,自由地,自發,自然地,無邊無際地漂浮和顯化。 隨著作者的缺乏,同時也帶來了一種深刻的自由感和透明感。 當我們對"自性見"過于執著時,將無法正確的理解。這聽起來可能很諷刺,但從經驗上來說確實如此。 令人驚訝的是,"自性見"如何阻礙我們將自由視為無作者,相依和相互聯系,光明和非二元的臨在。


2.對缺乏主體的直觀洞見。


在這種情況下,有了一個"沒有主體"的直接認知。 只是一個念頭接著另一個念頭。 所以總是一個思想在觀察另一個思想,而不是觀察者在觀察思想。 然而,這種認識的要點偏向于一種自發,自然的解脫體驗和對現象空性本質的模糊一瞥,也就是說,暫時性,短暫的現象是泡沫狀的和暫時性,短暫的,沒有實體或固體。 在這個階段,我們不應該誤解我們已經徹底體驗了現象和意識的"空性"本質,盡管我們會有這種想法的引誘。


根據個體的情況,"總是思想在觀察思想而不是觀察者在觀察思想"或者"觀察者就是那個念頭"可能不會很明顯。因為這是關鍵的洞見,也是解脫道上不能出錯的一步,所以我不禁用不敬的語氣說:


對于那些大師所教授的,

"讓念頭生起滅去,

將背景明鏡視為完美且不受影響。"

恕我直言,他們只是"胡說八道"一些美好但被迷惑的東西。


然而,

看到念頭背后無我。

先是一個念頭接著另一個念頭。

隨著洞見的深入,會有更深的領悟,

永遠只是,一個念頭!

不生,光明而空!


這就是無我的全部目的。要徹底看透這個背景在現實中是不存在的。存在的是一個流,一個動作或一個業,造作,。沒有做者或被做的任何事,只有做,行動,沒有禪修者,meditator,也沒有禪坐,meditation,只有在坐禪,meditating,。從放下的角度來看,"觀察者觀察念頭"會產生一種印象,即觀察者允許念頭生起和消退,而其本身不受影響。這是一種錯覺,它是偽裝成"放下"的"持著"。當我們體悟到從一開始就沒有背景時,現實就會表現為一個整體的放下。通過練習,隨著洞見的成熟,"意圖"逐漸減少,而"做"將逐漸被體驗為僅僅是自發,自然的發生,就像宇宙在做功一樣。有了來自"緣起"的一些指示,我們就可以進一步深入觀察,將這種發生看作是一切事物與一切事物相互作用的純粹表達。事實上,如果我們不具體化"宇宙",那就是,一種無論何時何地都恰到好處的相依生起的表達。


理解這一點,修行就是簡單地開放與任何事物。

因為無論何時何地,這種純粹的發生都是恰到好處的。

雖然沒有地方可以稱之為家,但四處為家。


當經歷在大自在的修行中成熟,

這些經歷是摩訶! 偉大,奇跡和極樂。

在看,吃,嘗這些世俗的活動中,

詩意地表達,仿佛整個宇宙都在禪修。


說的和表達的,真的都是不一樣的味道,

這一切的一切相依起源,

如同這一刻栩栩如生的閃爍。

到那時,瞬態現象顯然已經以完美的方式發生, 展開必須展開的東西,展現必須展現的東西,并在該去的時候消退。 這種暫時性,短暫的發生沒有問題,唯一的問題是有一個"額外的鏡子",由于念頭的抽象能力而具體化。 鏡子并不完美, 所發生的才是完美。 只有在二元和自性見的觀點下,鏡子才顯得完美。


我們根深蒂固的二元知見已經非常微妙地,不知不覺地將"光明面"擬人化為觀察者,摒棄"空面"作為暫時性,短暫的現象。 修行的主要挑戰就是要清楚地見到光明與空性是一體的,是不可分割的,它們從來沒有也永遠不會分開。


第二詩節.


對于第二節,重點是瞬態現象的生動,清凈。思想,聲音和所有瞬態都與覺知無法區分。 沒有體驗者,體驗的分割,只有一種無縫的自發,自然體驗作為思想者,思想,聽者,聲音,觸覺者,感覺等出現。 在聽覺上,聽者和聲音是不可區分的。 對于任何熟悉"我是,本我"體驗的人來說,那種純粹的存在感,那種讓人感覺如此真實的強大臨在明覺的體驗,都是難以忘懷的。 當背景消失后,所有前景現象都顯現為臨在明覺。 它就像自然的vipassanic,毗婆舍那,意思是觀察如其本然的實相,或者簡單地說,在覺知中赤身裸體。 從電腦,PC,的嘶嘶聲,到移動中的捷運列車的振動,再到雙腳著地的感覺,所有這些體驗都非常清晰,如同"我是,本我"而不亞于"我是,本我"。 臨在仍然完全臨在,沒有什么是否認的。


能所,主客的劃分只是一個假設。

因此,有人,我,放棄和被放棄的某些東西是一種幻覺。

當自我變得越來越透明,

同樣,現象變得越來越明亮。

在徹底透明的情況下,所有發生的都是純凈而生動與清晰的。

處處顯明,處處生機!


屆時將很明顯,只有根深蒂固的二元知見模糊了我們對這一經驗事實的洞見。 在實際體驗中,只有現象顯現的水晶般清晰。 成熟這種經驗,身心溶解為純粹非二元的光明,所有現象都被體會為這種非二元的光明臨在的表現,這是導致"一切即是心"的關鍵洞見。


在此之后,不要過于應接不暇或過度要求什么是不必要的, 而是進一步調查。 這種非二元的光明是否表現出任何獨立,不變和恒常的自性特征? 修行者有時仍會在不知不覺中固化非二元臨在而陷入困境。 正如我見解的 7 個階段的第 4 階段所描述的那樣,這留下了"一面鏡子"的痕跡。 雖然經驗是不二的,但空性的洞見仍然沒有。 盡管二元關系已經充分松動,但"固有"知見,自性見,仍然很強烈。


當"主體"消失時,經驗變得不二,但我們忘記了"客體"。 當對象被進一步清空時,我們見到了法身。 一定要清楚地看到,對于第一次被穿透的"主體",它只是一個整理 5蘊的標簽,但對于要被否定的下一個層次,我們正在清空的是臨在,不是標簽 而是本質上不二元的臨在本身。


對于已經成熟非二元的洞見的虔誠佛教修行者,他們可以提醒自己,如果非二元在是最終的,為什么佛陀還需要如此強調緣起? 這種體驗仍然是吠檀多,印度教的不二論,式的,更像是大梵,印度教的梵我,而不是"空性"。 必須借助緣起和空性來打破這種"非二元臨在的穩固性"。 知道了這一點,修行者就可以進一步了解非二元臨在的空性,緣起,本質。 根據第一詩節,它是對無我體驗的進一步提煉。


至于那些"我是,本我"的修行者,他們在非二元洞見之后停留在非二元臨在中是很常見的。 他們樂于"砍柴挑水"和"春來草自生"。 沒有什么可以強調的,這經驗視乎是終結 。 希望"緣",條件,能夠讓這些修行者看到這個阻止見識的微妙痕跡。


論空.


如果我們觀察念頭并問念頭在哪里生起,它是如何生起的,"念頭"是什么樣的。 "思想"將揭示其本質是空的,生動地呈現但完全無法定位。 非常重要的是不要推斷,思考或概念化,而是用我們的整個存在來感受這種"不可得"和"不可定位"。 它似乎位于"某處",但無法找到它。 它只是"那里"的某個地方的印象,但從來沒有"那里"。 類似地,"這里"和"現在"只是由感覺,因緣聚合形成的印象,沒有任何事物是有自體性地在"那里",就和"自我"同樣是空的。


這種不可得,不可定位的空性不僅是"思想"所特有的。 所有的體驗或感覺都是如此,生動地呈現但無實體,不可得,自發,自然,不可定位。


如果我們觀察一朵如此鮮艷,清晰,就在我們面前的紅色花朵,"紅色"只是看起來"屬于"這朵花,實際上并非如此。 紅色的視覺并非在所有動物物種中出現,狗無法感知顏色,"紅色"也不是心靈的固有屬性。 如果給予"量子視力"來觀察原子結構,則類似地在任何地方都找不到屬性"紅色",只有幾乎完整的空間,空隙,沒有可感知的形狀和形式。 任何相都是因緣而生的,因此沒有任何自性存在或固定的屬性,形狀,形式或"紅色性",只是光明而空性,只是沒有固有,自性存在的表相。


同樣,當站在燃燒的火坑前時,整個"火"的現象,燃燒的熱量,整個"熱性"的感覺如此生動地呈現,看起來如此真實,但當檢查它們時,它們也不是固有的"在那里" ,只要有條件,就隨緣顯相。 令人驚訝的是,二元和自性見把無縫的體驗被困住成一個誰,何在,何地的構念。


所有的經驗都是空的。 它們就像空中花,就像池塘表面的畫。 沒有辦法指出經驗的某一時刻,說這是"入",那是"出"。 所有的"進"都是"出", 對于覺知,意識而言,無縫的體驗就是一切。 重要的不是鏡子或池塘,而是顏料在池塘表面閃爍,如幻的現象的過程, 如幻而不是幻境,如夢而不是夢境。 這是所有經驗的根基。


然而,這種"不可得和不可定位"的性質并不是全部。 還有這種摩訶,這種偉大,無邊界的"相互聯系"的感覺。 當有人敲響鈴鐺時,人,棍子,鈴鐺,空氣的振動,耳朵和神奇的聲音出現,"咚……重新響起……"都是個無縫一體的發生,一體的體驗。 呼吸時,就是這全體,一整個呼吸, 是所有的因緣結合在一起,產生了整個呼吸的感覺,好像整個宇宙都在做這一呼一吸。 這種摩訶經驗的意義不在于語言, 在我看來,沒有這種體驗,就沒有真正的"互聯"體驗,而且非二元臨在是不完整的。


我們空性的體驗與非二元一體的體驗非常不同。 例如,"距離"在非二元一體中通過看穿主客體劃分的虛幻方面而被克服,并導致一體非二元的臨在。 它把一切都看成是'這個',但體驗空性是通過它的空性不可得和不可定位而打破界限。當我們深入探索這個性質時, 不需要一個"何處的地方", 一個"何時的時間", 或一個"誰, 我"。 聽到聲音時,聲音既不在"這里",也不在"那里",它就在它應該在的地方,然后就消失了!所有的中心和參考點都隨著一切呈現都是緣起而空無自性的般若智慧所化解。這種體驗創造了一種"無論何時何地總是正確"的感覺。一種無處可稱為家,但一切處都在家的感覺。體驗到臨在的空性,真誠的修行者明白,非二元的臨在確實留下了細微的痕跡, 見到其空性的本質, 實體化經驗的最后痕跡就會消解。這感覺很酷,因為臨在變得更加呈現,展示,present,和無費力。我們然后從"生動的非二元臨在"轉向"雖然生動且非二元地顯現,但它是無真實的,空的!"。


關于摩訶和平凡性.


摩訶的體驗可能聽起來像是在追求某種體驗,似乎與禪宗佛教推崇的"開悟的平凡性"相矛盾。這并不是真的,事實上,沒有這種體驗,非二元是不完整的。這個部分并不是關于摩訶作為一個要達到的階段,而是要見到空性是摩訶,大,無量無邊,的本質。在摩訶中,人不感覺自我,而是"感覺"宇宙,人不感覺'梵',而是感覺'相互聯系',人不因'依賴和相互聯系'感到'無助',而是感覺無邊界,自發且奇妙。現在讓我們回到'平凡性'。

平凡性一直是道教的強項。在禪宗中,我們也看到這一點在洞山的五位和十牛圖這些開悟模型中被描繪的重要性。但是,必須理解平凡性,即非二元和摩訶的真如世界并無超越。沒有可以到達的超越境界,也從未是從我們的日常世界分離出的某種狀態,相反,它是將這種原始,原初和未被污染的非二元和摩訶體驗帶入最平凡的活動中。如果這種體驗沒有在最平凡和普通的活動中找到,那么修行者就還沒有使他們的理解和修持成熟。


在摩訶體驗之前,自然狀態中的罕見現象總是被視為一種來來去去的趨勢。引發這種體驗通常涉及在短時間內專注于重復做某些任務。


例如,如果我們呼吸進出,進出......直到只有這種完整的呼吸感覺,就像所有的因果條件都匯集到這一刻的顯現。


如果我們專注于聽某人敲鐘,棒子,鐘聲,空氣的振動,耳朵都聚集在一起,使這種聲音的感覺產生,我們就會有摩訶體驗。


然而,自從將依賴緣起的教誨融入非二元臨在以來,這種體驗多年來已變得更"可到達的",但這從未被理解為基本狀態。


在非二元臨在的體驗中,似乎可以預見到相互依存的緣起和空性之間有一種可預見的關系。


一周前,對摩訶的明確體驗悄然顯現,變得相當不費力,同時也直接證悟到這也是一種自然狀態。在空性中, 摩訶是自然的, 必須完全納入體驗任何呈現的事物的道路。


然而, 摩訶作為基本狀態需要非二元體驗的成熟, 我們不能以, 二元分裂的心智來完全感受為一切事物相互關聯性而自然呈現為這一刻生動的表現。


宇宙就是這個生起的念頭。
宇宙就是這個生起的聲音。
就是這個壯麗的生起!
是道。

向所有生起致敬。

 

 

關于本自圓成。


最后,當這兩種體驗相互滲透時,真正需要的只是坦率無保留地體驗任何出現的事物。這可能聽起來簡單,但不要低估這條簡單的路徑,即使是永恒生活的修持也無法觸及其深度。


實際上所有的子段,"第一節","第二節","關于空性",已經對自然之道有了一定的強調。關于自然之道,我必須說,自發的臨在和無保留,無所畏懼地體驗任何出現的事物,并不是任何傳統或宗教的'道',無論是禪宗,大手印,大圓滿,不二派,道教還是佛教。實際上,自然之道是'道'的道,但是道教不能僅僅因為它有更長的歷史就聲稱對'道'有壟斷權。我的體驗是,任何真誠的實踐者在非二元體驗成熟后,最終都會自然而然地來到這里。就像在血液中,沒有其他方式可以超越自然之道。


話雖如此,自然和自發的方式經常被誤解。這并不意味著沒有必要做任何事情,或者修行是沒有必要的。相反,修行者最深入的洞見是,在反復提煉他對無我,空性和緣起的洞見之后,他突然意識到無我是,本我一種法印,非二元的光明和空性一直都是所有經驗的'基礎'。然后,修持從'專注'模式轉變為'無為',不費力的模式,為此,它需要非二元和空性的般若智完全滲透到我們的整個生命中,就像"二元見和自性見"如何侵入了我們的意識。


無論如何, 必須謹慎, 不要將我們空性而明亮的本質轉化為形而上學, 超自然的本質。我將以我在另一個博客"光明的空性"中寫的評論作為結尾,因為它很好地總結了我所寫的內容。


"無為"的程度,就是我們如何毫無保留,無所畏懼地向一切開放的程度。

因為無論出現什么,都是心,總是被看見,聽見,品味和體驗。

那沒有被看見,聽見和體驗的,是我們關于心的概念性想法。

每當我們將"光明,原始性"物化為無形的實體,它就成為了一個阻止我們看見"形色",靈覺的質地和面料。

實體化的傾向很微妙,我們放下了'自我性',卻不知不覺地抓住了'現在性'和'這里性'。

無論何時出現的都僅僅是緣起,不需要一個誰,何時,何地。

所有的體驗都是平等的,明亮的,但又空無自性。

盡管空性,但并沒有以任何方式否定其生動的光輝。

解脫就是體驗心如其所是。

自行解脫是深入洞見這個解脫始終如此,自發地臨在,本自圓成!

 


附言:


我們不應該將對空性的洞見視為比非二元光明更'高'。這只是由于不同條件而引發的。對于一些修行者來說,在非二元光明之前達到空性的洞見。


要更深入地理解空性的概念,請閱讀Greg Goode博士的文章"非二元空性"。


標簽:無我,空性,光明,摩訶,非二元,自發臨在 。

 

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"一開始,幾乎不可能不感到二元對立。


一個觀察者在觀察被觀察的,這是我們的日常經驗,這似乎是一個經驗性的事實。


因此我們不應該匆忙做任何事,只需要簡單地認識到'原因'。


使我們以這種方式看待的原因被稱為'無明'。試圖理解'無明',不是作為不知道,而是作為一種知道的形式。


將其視為一種非常深刻的'二元認知'形式,我們認為這就是真理。


然后,我們將通過兩個步驟來克服這個錯誤的觀點,一個是強烈而堅定地建立正確的正知正見以替代我們現有的'二元見和自性見',第二個是通過裸露的覺照力去觀,以減少知見的影響。


在身體感覺中保持赤裸裸的狀態,直到在身體感覺中有一種非常強烈清晰的鏡子感覺。


然后,有了正知正見,非二元就會出現。


沒有正知正見,它很可能會變成一個反映現象的鏡子的體驗。


修持可能需要數十年時間,并且在此過程中經常會感到非常沮喪和具有挑戰性。


但要有信心,耐心,并有自信,所有的努力最終都將被證明是值得的。


我用來幫助我的修持的一個簡單總結:


當存在一種簡單純粹的存在感,


當靈覺像鏡子一樣呈現,


當感覺變得清晰明亮,


這就是光明。


當所有的生起都顯得不相連,


當一切相沒有中心就涌現,


當現象似乎沒有控制者就自行出現,


這就是無作者。


當主體,對象的劃分被看作是幻覺,


當清楚沒有人在思想背后,


當只有風景,聲音,思想等等,


這就是無我。


當現象清晰如水晶般呈現,


當只有一種無縫的體驗,


當所有的一切都被看作是臨在,


這就是非二元臨在。


當我們完全感覺到現象的不可尋找性和不可定位性,


當所有的體驗都被視為不可得,


當所有的心靈邊界,內,外,那里,這里,現在,然后都消融,


這就是空性。


當一切的互聯性被完全感覺到,


當生起,呈現顯得大如虛空,無費力和美妙,


當臨在感覺像宇宙,


這就是摩訶。


當生起,呈現不被限制在誰,何處和何時,


當所有現象都顯得自發和不費力,


當一切在任何地方,任何時候都顯得正確,


這就是自然圓滿。


將這些看作所有經驗的基礎,


始終如此,已然如此,


這就是智慧。


無論出現什么,都去體驗這個基礎,


這就是修持。


祝你旅途愉快。

 


"在幾百年,或幾千年,的時間里,有關這個那個的腳本多如牛毛…


重要的只是精髓…


意思是,如果你深入空性教學和緣起,只要,關注,精髓...


把它當成公案…


沒有像中觀派這樣的禪宗公案能讓我們如此深入地穿透。也沒有像道元的全力以赴這樣的公案可以如此神奇地傳達這種巨大的被"連接"體驗…


對我來說,只有這四點就足夠了:直接指向靈覺,無我,全力以赴,摩訶,和空性。其余的是通過遭遇和專注的修法來深化你的洞察和體悟。"


• John Tan, 2017



請看:Thusness “真如”/PasserBy “過路人”開悟的七個階段 - Chinese Translation of Thusness/PasserBy's Seven Stages of Enlightenment

請看:(Traditional Chinese) 佛性不是“我是/我在/本我” - Buddha Nature is NOT "I Am"


 Also see: Transcript of Lankavatara Sutra with Thusness 2007

Transcript with Thusness 2012 - Group Gathering


Second transcription done! Read at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MYAVGmj8JD8IAU8rQ7krwFvtGN1PNmaoDNLOCRcCTAw/edit ChatGPT's summary: Synopsis and Timeline of AtR Meeting, March 2021


Introduction and Initial Discussions (00:00 - 10:00)

  • John Tan reflects on a young practitioner's understanding of emptiness and the concept of inherent existence​​.

Phases of Insight and Emptiness (10:00 - 35:00)

  • Discussion on the phases of insight, emphasizing the difficulty in articulating advanced Buddhist concepts.
  • John Tan explains the different schools of thought in Mahayana Buddhism, particularly Yogacara and Nagarjuna's emptiness, and how they approach the understanding of constructs and inherent existence​​.

Experience and Interpretation of Anatta (35:00 - 1:10:00)

  • John Tan elaborates on the experience of anatta (no-self) and how it is understood through seeing the emptiness of constructs and the dependent nature of phenomena​​.
  • He contrasts the non-dual experience in Buddhism with Advaita Vedanta, explaining the pitfalls of solipsism and the importance of understanding inherent existence and non-duality​​.

Detailed Analysis of Consciousness and Awareness (1:10:00 - 1:45:00)

  • John Tan discusses the differences between awareness, consciousness, and self in Buddhist philosophy compared to Western interpretations​​.
  • Exploration of the concept of "presence" and how it differs in various spiritual traditions​​.

Practice and Insight (1:45:00 - 2:20:00)

  • The conversation shifts to the practical aspects of meditative practice, specifically the use of Vipassana and the development of wisdom through seeing constructs​​.
  • John Tan shares personal experiences and insights on integrating practice into daily life and the role of continuous practice in refining one's understanding​​.

Discussion on Yogacara and Its Philosophical Nuances (2:20:00 - 2:50:00)

  • John Tan provides a detailed explanation of Yogacara, including the three natures (imagined, dependent, and perfect) and their significance in understanding the nature of experience and emptiness​​.
  • The challenges in interpreting Yogacara's teachings and the varying interpretations across different schools and stages of development​​.

Reflections on Different Spiritual Traditions (2:50:00 - 3:20:00)

  • Comparison between Buddhism, Taoism, and Advaita Vedanta, highlighting the unique aspects and commonalities in their approaches to spirituality and practice​​.
  • Discussion on the role of cultural context in shaping the interpretation and practice of these traditions​​.

Advanced Meditative and Dream Practices (3:20:00 - 3:50:00)

  • John Tan shares personal anecdotes about experiences in meditation and dreams that contributed to deeper insights and understanding, such as spontaneous clarity and experiences of non-dual presence​​.
  • The importance of recognizing and integrating these experiences into one's practice and understanding​​.

Concluding Remarks and Final Thoughts (3:50:00 - 4:00:00)

  • Reflections on the importance of continuous practice, the challenges of integrating insights into daily life, and the necessity of maintaining an open and inquisitive mind in spiritual practice​​.
  • John Tan emphasizes the need to avoid dogmatism and cult-like tendencies in spiritual communities, advocating for a balanced and practical approach to learning and teaching​​.

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