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David Mcdonald
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A very honest sharing from Suzanne. It’s also important to point out that it doesn’t play out like this for everyone. For a lot of people there can be lots of unresolved trauma that may make this realisation process seem almost nihilistic, or may seem like your losing something.
It’s almost like a contradiction in terms isn’t it “end of suffering” yet there’s the deep dark “cost”. For me it’s been nothing but relief and pure magic 🪄 luminous, empty appearance, how wonderful 😍😍
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She only expressed non doership and impersonality. There is no insight into luminosity and no genuine insight into AtR's anatman.
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99% of those who say they realised or experienced no-self only experienced non-doership and/or impersonality. See what I wrote in https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/.../different-degress...
And without insight into luminosity one can veer into nihilism.
Different Degress of No-Self: Non-Doership, Non-dual, Anatta, Total Exertion and Dealing with Pitfalls
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Preston Putzel
Soh Wei Yu Can’t nondoership also present like a “divine pattern” or “divine will” in I AM? These would be the opposite of nihilistic. Although I suppose it’s rare for these experiences to show up with a non-theistic interpretation. Maybe, the “intelligence of reality” would work.
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Preston Putzel Most of the time there is no real insight into https://www.diamondapproach.org/.../refinery.../intelligence
And non-doership is just nihilistic
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Preston Putzel
Soh Wei Yu So divine will is more like stage 4 then? Interesting link you shared btw, thanks.
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no, can be stage 1.5 also
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His book Brilliancy in 2006 about intelligence is also nice. I have that book. But at that point he has not gone beyond i am and one mind. His insights into anatta and total exertion is recent
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A. H. Almaas: God, Awakening, & Consciousness
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Preston Putzel This video is good:
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Shared this video exactly two years ago. Very clear and worth watching.
“Really good 👍
John Tan: “Total exertion is about a single thing, a single event, a single action. Seen is just seen, walking is just walking. Yet this single event is a total participation.
Suchness is beyond speech and termination of words as conventionally, words can only express right and inherent thought linked by relations. However Almaas though talk about oneness and I AM and total exertion, he must also understand -A that is free from all elaborations is equality non-dual and non-local in taste, there is no difference.
The message carried in his video is that the single thing is in our everydayness not resorting elsewhere, no referencing needed, no oneness, no speciality...fire is the single thing, ash is the single thing, by itself it is all and involved all 三千世界.”
Note: San qian shi jie 三千世界 = the three thousand world systems, aka. the cosmos
San qian shi jie 三千世界 = the three thousand world systems, aka the cosmos”
Dogen: Founder of Soto Zen in Japan
Dogen: Founder of Soto Zen in Japan
In the lecture “Dogen: The Founder of Soto Zen in Japan”, delivered November 6, 2021, Diamond Approach founder and spiritual teacher A. H. Almaas investigate...
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However, he misunderstood the view of Dzogchen and conflated it with Advaita Vedanta, which is why I wrote a letter to him: https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/.../a-letter-to-almaas... "
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Therefore she does not experience what I wrote here:
Why awakening is so worth it
From time to time, people ask me why should they seek awakening. I say, awakening will be the best thing that happen in your life, I guarantee it. It is worth whatever effort you put into it. You won't regret it. Or as Daniel M. Ingram said, "Would I trade this for anything? Maybe world peace, but I would have to think about it. Until then, this totally rocks, and missing out on it would be barking crazy from my point of view."
What is it like? I can only give a little preview, an excerpt of what I wrote taken from the AtR guide:
"Personally, I can say from direct experience that direct realization is completely direct, immediate, and non-intellectual, it is the most direct and intimate taste of reality beyond the realm of imagination. It far exceeds one’s expectations and is far superior to anything the mind can ever imagine or dream of. It is utter freedom. Can you imagine living every moment in purity and perfection without effort, where grasping at identity does not take hold, where there is not a trace or sense of 'I' as a seer, feeler, thinker, doer, be-er/being, an agent, a 'self' entity residing inside the body somewhere relating to an outside world, and what shines forth and stands out in the absence of a 'self' is a very marvellous, wondrous, vivid, alive world that is full of intense vividness, joy, clarity, vitality, and an intelligence that is operating as every spontaneous action (there is no sense of being a doer), where any bodily actions, speech and thoughts are just as spontaneous as heart beating, fingernails growing, birds singing, air moving gently, breath flowing, sun shining - there is no distinction between ‘you are doing action’/’you are living’ and ‘action is being done to you’/’you are being lived’ (as there is simply no ‘you’ and ‘it’ - only total and boundless spontaneous presencing).
This is a world where nothing can ever sully and touch that purity and perfection, where the whole of universe/whole of mind is always experienced vividly as that very purity and perfection devoid of any kind of sense of self or perceiver whatsoever that is experiencing the world at a distance from a vantagepoint -- life without ‘self’ is a living paradise free of afflictive/painful emotions (note: I am not proclaiming a state of Buddhahood or
Arahantship where all traces of mental afflictions are totally obliterated, see
, and Traditional Buddhist Attainments: Arahantship and Buddhahood in the original AtR
guide https://app.box.com/s/157eqgiosuw6xqvs00ibdkmc0r3mu8jg for more details), where every color, sound, smell, taste, touch and detail of the world stands out as the very boundless field of pristine awareness, sparkling brilliance/radiance, colorful, high-saturation, HD, luminous, heightened intensity and shining wonderment and magicality, where the surrounding sights, sounds, scents, sensations, smells, thoughts are seen and experienced so clearly down to the tiniest details, vividly and naturally, not just in one sense door but all six, where the world is a fairy-tale like wonderland, revealed anew every moment in its fullest depths as if you are a new-born baby experiencing life for the first time, afresh and never seen before, where life is abundant with peace, joy and fearlessness even amidst the apparent chaos and troubles of life, and everything experienced through all the senses far surpasses any beauty previously experienced, as if the universe is like heaven made of glittering gold and jewels, experienced in complete gapless directness without separation, where life and the universe is experienced in its intense lucidity, clarity, aliveness and vivifying presence not only without intermediary and separation but without center and boundaries - infinitude as vast as an endless night sky is actualized every moment, an infinitude that is simply the vast universe appearing as an empty, distanceless, dimensionless and powerful presencing, where the mountains and stars on the horizon stands out no more distant than one’s breath, and shines forth as intimately as one’s heartbeat, where the cosmic scale of infinitude is actualized even in ordinary activities as the entirety of the universe is always participating as every ordinary activity including walking and breathing and one’s very body (without a trace of an ‘I’ or ‘mine’) is as much the universe/dependent origination in action and there is nothing outside of this boundless exertion/universe, where the purity and infinitude of the marvellous world experienced through being cleansed in all doors of perception is constant. (If the doors of perception were cleansed every thing would appear to man as it is: Infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things thro' narrow chinks of his cavern. - William Blake)
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You know all the Mahayana Sutras (e.g. Vimalakirti Sutra), old Zen talks about seeing this very earth as pure land and all the Vajrayana talks about the point of tantra as the pure vision of seeing this very world, body, speech and mind in its primordial unfabricated purity as the Buddha field, palace, mandala, mantra and deity? Now you truly get it, you realise everything is really just like that when experienced in its primordial purity and perfection, and that the old sages have not been exaggerating at all. It is as much a literal and precise description of the state of consciousness as it is a metaphor. As I told John Tan before, Amitabha Sutra’s description of pure land resembles my living experience here and now. “To me it just means anatta. When what’s seen, tasted, touched, smelled are in clean purity, everywhere is pure land.” - John Tan, 2019. "If one is free from background self, all manifestations appear in clean purity in taste. Impurities from what I know come from mental constructions." – John Tan, 2020
This is a freedom that is free from any artificially constructed boundaries and limitations. And yet, this boundlessness does not in any way lead to the dissociation from one’s body, instead one feels more alive than ever as one’s very body, one grows ever more somatic, at home and intimate as one’s body. This is not a body normally conceived of, as the boundaries of an artificially solidified body that stands separated from the universe, dissolve into energetic streams of aliveness dancing and pulsating throughout the body in high energy and pleasure, as well as sensations of foot steps, movement, palm touching an object, where the body is no longer conflated with a constructed boundary of ‘inside’ and ‘outside’, ‘self’ or ‘other’, where no trace of an ‘inside’ and an ‘outside’ can be found in one’s state of consciousness - there’s only one indivisible, boundless and measureless world/mind - only this infinitude of a dynamic and seamlessly interconnected dance that we call ‘the universe’. This is better than any passing peak experiences be they arisen spontaneously, in meditation or through the use of psychedelic substances. And yet, despite experiencing life to it fullest every moment without any veils, in complete openness and utter nakedness, nothing gains a foothold in consciousness, for as vivid as they are, they leave no trace just as a bird leaves no tracks in the sky, an empty and lucid display such as a gust of wind and the glittery reflections of moon on the ocean waves - appearing but nothing ‘there’ or anywhere. All these words and descriptions I just wrote came very easily and spontaneously in a very short time as I am simply describing my current state of experience that is experienced every moment. I am not being poetic here but simply being as direct and clear as possible about what is immediately experienced. And this is only a figment that I am describing. If I were to tell you more of what this is like, you would not believe it. But once you enter this gateless realm you shall see that words always pale in comparison."
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And I totally agree with yin ling’s comments early last year:
Do you guys know about Suzanne Chang ? Got sent videos from her YouTube .. I find her very nihilistic and not a correct no self. Wonder what you guys think
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Aayush Jain
Soh Wei Yu She seems depressed from what I've seen. I don't think anyone who has understood no-self would feel anything other than freedom, gratitude, and even reverence for attaining such a realization in this life.
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Another related article:
Anatta and Pure Presence
Someone told me about having been through insights of no self and then progressing to a realisation of the ground of being.
I replied:
Hi ____
Thanks for the sharing.
This is the I AM realization. Had that realisation after contemplating Before birth, who am I? For two years. It’s an important realization. Many people had insights into certain aspects of no self, impersonality, and “dry non dual experience” without doubtless realization of Presence. Therefore I AM realisation is a progression for them.
Similarly in Zen, asking who am I is to directly experience presence. How about asking a koan of what is the cup? What is the chirping bird, the thunder clap? What is its purpose?
When I talked about anatta, it is a direct insight of Presence and recognizing what we called background presence, is in the forms and colours, sounds and sensations, clean and pure. Authentication is be authenticated by all things. Also there is no presence other than that. What we call background is really just an image of foreground Presence, even when Presence is assuming its subtle formless all pervasiveness.
However due to ignorance, we have a very inherent and dual view, if we do see through the nature of presence, the mind continues to be influenced by dualistic and inherent tendencies. Many teach to overcome it through mere non conceptuality but this is highly misleading.
Thusness also wrote:
The anatta I realized is quite unique. It is not just a realization of no-self. But it must first have an intuitive insight of Presence. Otherwise will have to reverse the phases of insights
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Sim Pern Chong
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Hmmm... I appreciate her honesty.. but I think it is not a complete realisation.. maybe human perspective perhaps. There are much vaster, more magical dimension beyonds this. IMO.
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Carter Spinks
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I love this one.
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Tony Taylor
She criticized Angelos realization in a video the other day talking with a woman and I never get involved in YouTube comments but I had to say something that time. It was passive aggressive and flat out incorrect.