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Just saw through a subtle tendencies to separate and divide in experience. I was sitting down to meditate and I realized that every sensation is the meditating. No one is more the meditating than not. Since the sound of the bird is very much the bird, the bird is the meditating too. Everything interpenetrates like this. Then perception flipped into a single sense door. Total being. In every activity, all sensations are the activity. Seeing with one's ears and hearing with one's eyes is clear.
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Stian Gudmundsen Høiland
So since there is meditating ("here"), the whole universe meditates (/ shares in the meditating)?
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Jayson MPaul
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Yes.
It came upon by noticing that every sensation that happens while
meditating has been the act of meditating. There is no meditating beyond
all sensations and Meditating is fully inclusive of all. All activities
can be recognized to be this way as well.
Before
it was more like, there is sound separate from the activity of
meditating. But drawing lines like that is just inhibitting undivided
seamless experiencing.
Stian Gudmundsen Høiland
Yeah; the drawn lines.
So right now, Jayson is taking the bus 
So are ya’ll others!
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Soh Wei Yu
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When
expressed this way sometimes some people may mishear it in terms of
panpsychism but this is not necessarily our view. Like the rock is
literally conscious and meditating but thats not what we mean
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André A. Pais
Tks. These conversations with Karma Phuntsho are very interesting.
John
Tan, what do you think of the following video, taken from the same
interview, where Jinpa kind of distances Tsongkhapa from the Zen (and
Dzogchen) tradition? Because you've previously made the connection
between Tsongkhapa and Dōgen.
Thupten Jinpa: On the Buddha-Nature of Insentient Things
Thupten Jinpa: On the Buddha-Nature of Insentient Things
Thupten Jinpa: On the Buddha-Nature of Insentient Things
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André
A. Pais I think Jinpa may not be familiar with zen language and is
taking it too literally rather than metaphorically to express first
person non-dual experience. This is similar to Mipham 2 models of 2
truths, one from authentic/non-authentic experience standpoint and the
other from ontological 2 truth standpoint.
Jinpa
is talking from the ontological 2 truth model where zen or other direct
path traditions r talking from the former authentic experience model.
For
the authentic experience 2-truth model, since both self and others are
de-constructed in the ultimate, the taste of purity, presence and
aliveness permeates everything in experience, both sentient and
insentient included. It doesn't mean the insentient is conscious as in
panpsychism. That is my opinion.
As
for Tsongkhapa and Dogen, both masters respect the conventional and
their attitudes towards conduct and karma are uncompromising. Also
Tsongkhapa deep interest in Avatamsaka Sutra and Dogen's total exertion
make me even want to connect both of them more. 
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