[20/5/24, 11:34:02 PM] John Tan: Understanding the orientation of continual practice, the attitude of devotion to what is real, gets us closer to the mystery of the relationship between practice and realization. When we first learn to practice, we usually have an experience of ourselves practicing. As we come to more thoroughly understand the nature of the self and of reality, our sense of self transforms until, at some point, we realize that when one is practicing, when one is meditating, when one is inquiring, when one is chanting, it is not one particular individual that is practicing, it is the totality of all that there is that is practicing. The more continual our practice and the more unflagging our orientation toward reality, the more our understanding of who or what practices can shift from an identified self to the totality of reality.

[20/5/24, 11:34:33 PM] John Tan: From diamond approach, I like this one.

[20/5/24, 11:35:59 PM] Soh Wei Yu: from Runaway Realisation.. that book by him i want to read but haven't had time. its about anatta and total exertion

[20/5/24, 11:36:01 PM] John Tan: Without core (essencelessness) and totality presenting itself is one understanding.

[20/5/24, 11:36:24 PM] John Tan: Yes

[20/5/24, 11:37:25 PM] Soh Wei Yu: https://www.amazon.com/Runaway-Realization-Living-Ceaseless-Discovery-ebook/dp/B00OYFPKK2/ref=sr_1_1?crid=G95HQNP1W4BR&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.l-tL5eKFWZ16hX8XWreMDaFtqxU4pJ9OxQILOyoY3LwQVHQPsTKa6KQeoOn8vH70yBgUB5VcE0BaQsG0r9aUtNC6lfepU3hwWr-a56zm_wXv_8lA_b7DK57QD7gNSzM9IKMzvY_CSCp54z4DRS8QV8k7_IG0O2g69MMM3VEba58CM2sNxb8zJ7Xqt0mxDRnnpfcbVIIxRH-TF6MA3S9qYb97YJIhoJlmWPCNNm3qigY.p3TPBdtYle_6UW4lnef9LGKWKjEtPvA7yEH--_8lLCY&dib_tag=se&keywords=runaway+realization&qid=1716219400&sprefix=runaway+realiz%2Caps%2C387&sr=8-1 


- his first book after anatta... also this one https://www.amazon.com/Alchemy-Freedom-Philosophers-Secrets-Existence/dp/1611804469/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=Gvbs2&content-id=amzn1.sym.cf86ec3a-68a6-43e9-8115-04171136930a&pf_rd_p=cf86ec3a-68a6-43e9-8115-04171136930a&pf_rd_r=137-7634696-2758744&pd_rd_wg=nlkgv&pd_rd_r=e5b815bb-b6da-4644-b9d2-7ad11517f91f&ref_=aufs_ap_sc_dsk

[20/5/24, 11:39:11 PM] John Tan: So we cannot understand one without the other.  U must deeply understand these 2 and taste effortlessness and natural spontaneity from these 2 understanding conceptually first.


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