I love this. I still don’t have the deep conviction going beyond life and death yet but I have the inferential insight so I like to practise asking myself,
“Now in my experience, what is it that dies? Point to it”
Then I let my mind find. 😁😁😁
this, just what is. It's so
simple that you can't even call
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ernoos 3mautM8  
Love this!
When every breath, every sound, every taste, every touch is direct and without self as filter, it is so blissful as though the radiance of awareness contains unlimited bliss in it. One will know. Every breath is prominent bliss, can’t miss that.
One can’t help to keep feeling oneself, mind feeling mind.
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Yummm
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A fun little jaunt...




 John Tan wrote:

André A. Pais  Similar to no-self of ATR, if the pointing does not result in the direct recognition of suchness (pure appearances) free from apprehender and apprehended or recognition of appearances as one's radiance clarity, then it is not anatta proper.  Which is what imo Shentong Madhyamika is trying to emphasize with affirming-negation.

However to me, for a path that is based on reasoning and analysis, negation should be non-implicative because practitioners along the path are always dealing with a dualistic and inherent mind.  If there is no dualistic and inherent mind, then there is no need for any path as there is nothing to sever.  Hence, affirming-negation imo is less skillful as that would promote rather than sever the habitual tendency which is not the import of the analytical path.  

If one wants to talk about the self-arising wisdom, it should not be by way of reasoning and analysis, the padaegogy will have to be radically different.  It will probably have to be like dzogchen that takes the result as path.  Then emphasis should not be just non-referential ease and space-like emptiness but includes all the magic of clarity's radiance.

John Tan answered someone on contemplating emptiness:

 

John Tan:

Hm... There r 4 parts to really penetrate... If he really keen to penetrate.  He should contemplate:

1. non-arisen

2. Dependent arising of a vivid hearing of sound from hitting a bell... Where is that sound? Not found in any of the conditions, not found even if all conditions added yet when conditions are there, sound is heard. How is the world now articulated this way understood as compared to the dualistic and inherent paradigm then how is experience like?

3.  Then how to apply these insight emptiness, non-arisen, dependent arising relate to the world of delusory, the world of dreams, the world of pure appearances free from conceptual taints, what does it tell us about these 3 "worlds"?  

4.  Lastly after he understands 3, how he understand freedom comparing to how he sees now, freedom from conceptualities.
[9:40 pm, 15/05/2022] John Tan: For 1 he can contemplate:
[9:41 pm, 15/05/2022] John Tan: We seldom realize the baggage of notions that thoughts carry.  They are extremely "weighty" and tie down tremendous energy.  In addition to the notion of "self" that some have seen through, the next set of heavy weighty notions are "arising, abiding and ceasing". 

There are several times the cryptic phrase "non-arisen" has been asked and even though explanations are being made that conceptual notions are "empty and non-arisen", they do not exist much like a rope being mistaken as a "snake".  "Snake" never existed despite its "delusory appearance" when in confusion. 

But it can't trigger the "aha" moment that can free the mind and releases its energy much like in anatta.  Why?  Because “uprooting" of our deeply hypnotic spell cannot come from textbooks; the entire "weight" of these deeply ingrained notions must be felt so that we can feel the "weight" that spell-bound us to samsara.  So for those that r interested, they can contemplate:

1. This moment ceases as it arises, does it arise or does it cease.

2.  Past does not exist since it is already gone. Future does not exist since it is yet to arise and present is merely the intersection of past and future, then "present" also does not exist.  So "present" that is undeniably "here", does it exist or not exist?

 

必须直接体悟本来无我

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宗喀巴大师说过,单单不假设有自我是不足够的;必须直接体悟本来无我。


保持无念只是修定,外道也是修无想定,佛法不只要修定而更重要的是要开启般若智慧。

翻译: “根除无明的过程……不是仅仅停止思想,而是积极地体悟那无明所误解的相反。无明不仅仅是缺乏知识,而是一种特定的误解,它必须通过体悟它(无明)的对立面来消除。 在这方面,宗喀巴大师说,不能仅仅通过停止概念来摆脱对“固有存在”(自性见)的误解,就像一个人是不可能以尽量不去想它的方法来摆脱黑暗洞穴中有恶魔的想法一样。就像一个人必须拿着灯,看到那里没有恶魔一样,所以需要智慧的照明来清除无明的黑暗。”

Napper, 伊丽莎白, 2003, p. 103"

original: "The process of eradicating avidy (ignorance) is conceived… not as a mere stopping of thought, but as the active realization of the opposite of what ignorance misconceives. Avidy is not a mere absence of knowledge, but a specific misconception, and it must be removed by realization of its opposite. In this vein, Tsongkhapa says that one cannot get rid of the misconception of 'inherent existence' merely by stopping conceptuality any more than one can get rid of the idea that there is a demon in a darkened cave merely by trying not to think about it. Just as one must hold a lamp and see that there is no demon there, so the illumination of wisdom is needed to clear away the darkness of ignorance."

Napper, Elizabeth, 2003, p. 103"


心只是一个名字

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翻译: “知者感知可知【的事物】;
没有可知【的事物】,就没有知;
所以你为什么不承认
既不存在所(对相)也不存在能(主体)?

心只是一个名字;
除了它的名字,它不存在于任何东西;
因此,将识视为一个名称;
名也无自性。

无论是在内还是在外,
或者介于两者之间,
一切耆那 (意译为情欲的战胜者,即圣人)从未找到心;
所以心有幻相的本性。

颜色和形状的区别,
或者客体与主体的区别,
男性、女性和中性的——
心没有这种固定的形式。

简而言之,佛陀从未见过
他们也永远不会看到【这样的心】;
那么他们怎么能把它看作是有自性
那没有自性【的心】?

“实体”是一种概念化;
没有概念化是空;
在发生概念化处,
怎么会有空?

在知和知者方面的心,
这是如来从未见过的;
哪里有被知和知者,
就没有开悟。

无相也无生,
无实体的存在,也超越言语,
虚空、菩提心【觉醒心】与觉悟
具有不二的特性。”

- 龙树菩萨,《菩提心论》(Bodhicittavivarana)


原文:“The cognizer perceives the cognizable;
Without the cognizable there is no cognition;
Therefore why do you not admit
That neither object nor subject exists [at all]?

The mind is but a mere name;
Apart from it's name it exists as nothing;
So view consciousness as a mere name;
Name too has no intrinsic nature.

Either within or likewise without,
Or somewhere in between the two,
The conquerors have never found the mind;
So the mind has the nature of an illusion.

The distinctions of colors and shapes,
Or that of object and subject,
Of male, female and the neuter -
The mind has no such fixed forms.

In brief the Buddhas have never seen
Nor will they ever see [such a mind];
So how can they see it as intrinsic nature
That which is devoid of intrinsic nature?

"Entity" is a conceptualization;
Absence of conceptualization is emptiness;
Where conceptualization occurs,
How can there be emptiness?

The mind in terms of perceived and perceiver,
This the Tathagatas have never seen;
Where there is the perceived and perceiver,
There is no enlightenment.

Devoid of characteristics and origination,
Devoid of substantiative reality and transcending speech,
Space, awakening mind and enlightenment
Possess the characteristics of non-duality.”

- Nagarjuna, Bodhicittavivarana


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需知真心,只是假名。不可误为实有。
故龙树中论说,如是实有又如何幻化。

Due to a discussion with a Theravadin, a thought came to mind to find out what is the Theravadin term for supramundane samadhi of an arya where vipassana/insight and samatha is conjoined.


Someone resourceful informed me:



“Suññatā samādhi is listed a few times in the suttas, along with signless samādhi (animittā samādhi), and undirected samādhi (appaṇihitā samādhi). For example, SN 43.4: And what monks, is the path leading to the not-fabricated? The emptiness samādhi (suññatā samādhi), the signless samādhi (animittā samādhi), the undirected samādhi (appaṇihitā samādhi). This is called the path leading to the not-fabricated. The development of suññatā samādhi is the same as the development of the emptiness liberation of mind (suññatā cetovimutti). MN 43 Mahāvedalla Sutta: What is the emptiness liberation of mind? Here a monk goes to the forest, to the root of a tree, or to an empty place and reflects: 'This is empty of a self or that which belongs to a self.' Friend, this is said to be the emptiness liberation of mind. These terms (suññatā, animittā, and appaṇihitā) are presented in more detail in the Abhidhammapiṭaka and the Paṭisambhidāmagga. The Dhammasaṅgaṇī mentions entering and abiding in emptiness as one of the alternate designations of supramundane jhāna (e.g. lokuttaraṃ jhānaṃ ... paṭhamaṃ jhānaṃ upasampajja viharati suññataṃ), where calm (samatha) and liberating clear seeing (vipassanā) are coupled together and balanced within jhāna. And as already mentioned, the Paṭisambhidāmagga makes frequent use of this triad (suññatā, animittā, and appaṇihitā), where the method of development of emptiness deliverance is stated in exactly the same terms as the above excerpt from MN 43 regarding the emptiness liberation of mind. Stated simply, these various designations related to suññatā samādhi are the supramundane development of the recognition/contemplation of selflessnesss (termed anattasaññā in the suttas and anattānupassanā in the Paṭisambhidāmagga).”

lots of posts by Geoff about this topic supramundane jhana measureless samadhi emptiness samadhi signless samadhi measureless liberation of mind etc

“And what is the emptiness awareness-release (suññatā cetovimutti)? There is the case where a monk, having gone into the wilderness, to the root of a tree, or into an empty dwelling, considers this: 'This is empty of self or of anything pertaining to self.' This is called the emptiness awareness-release.” [MN 43, SN 41.7]
 
 
 
another good post:
 

“Every moment is an encounter of my thousand faces. The sound of thunder, every drop of rain, every heartbeat, every breath, every thought. Experience, experience, experience, experience!”
- Soh, 2012
 
"Pure clarity has a strict no-face - the face of non-conceptuality.
Empty clarity has a thousand faces, every face is brilliance and new."
- John Tan, 2014
 
"Alejandro, I would separate non-arisen and emptiness from the luminosity. Imo, it's a separate pointing. The one hand clapping here directly points to the luminosity. 
 
What is the way that leads the practitioner to “the direct taste”? In zen, koan is the technique and the way.
The one hand clapping koan is the instrument that leads one to directly and intuitively authenticate presence = sound.
 
Let’s use another koan for example, “Before birth who am I?”, this is similar to just asking “Who am I”. The “Before birth” here is to skilfully lead the thinking mind to penetrate to the limit of its own depth and suddenly completely cease and rest, leaving only I-I. Only this I as pure existence itself. Before birth, this I. After birth, this I. This life or 10 thousand lives before, this I. 10 thousand lives after, still this I. The direct encounter of the I-I.
 
Similarly the koan of the sound of one hand clapping, is to lead the practitioner after initial break-through into I-I not to get stuck in dead water and attached to the Absolute. To direct practitioner to see the ten thousand faces of presence face to face. In this case, it is that “Sound” of one hand clapping. 
 
Whether one hand claps or before both hands clap, what is that sound? It attempts to lead the practitioner into just that “Sound”. All along there is only one hand clapping, two hands (duality) are not needed. It is similar to contemplating "in hearing always only sound, no hearer".
 
As for the empty and non-arisen nature of that Sound, zen koans have not (imo) been able to effectively point to the non-arisen and emptiness of one’s radiance clarity.”
 
- John Tan, about two years ago
 
Soh's 2013 translation of an article by a famous blogger, 了了灵知亦不是
 
"The Clear Knowing of Spirit/Intelligent Awareness is Also Not It":
 
 
Partial excerpt from link:
 
朗月当空照,犹是阶下汉。了了灵知时,莫强生知见。见中立能所,生死又一翻。根尘相对时,明相亦是幻。是幻皆应离,不应生贪念。昭昭灵光相,不是佛本面。佛有千张脸,张张活又鲜。举语问君子,哪张是佛面?佛面在何处?谁知谁曾见?能见法身时,了了在目前。
 
8. The bright moon shines in the sky, that is still the man below rank (not yet entering the gate). The clear knowing of spirit/intelligent awareness, should never lead to the stubborn arising of views. Establishing subject and object in the midst of seeing, birth and death comes yet another round. When the root (sense faculty) and dust (sense object) meet, clear appearances are also illusions. All that are illusions should be left, we should not give rise to thoughts of craving. The appearance of bright and clear spirit/intelligence is not the Buddha's original face. Buddha has ten thousand faces, each face is fresh and alive. Speaking up to ask the noble man, which face is the Buddha's face? Where is the Buddha's face? Who knows and who has seen it before? When you are able to see the Dharmakaya, it is clearly right in front.