Anonymous said...

Bro, u r not qualified to talk anything abt the Divine coz u hv ZERO idea wat the Supreme/Absolute truly is .....

Sep 6, 2023, 11:53:00 PM

Blogger Soh said...

On the contrary, I have realized that with absolute certainty since my I AM realization in February 2010. There are lot of further realisations, many of which you truly have zero ideas and understanding of, primarily the anatman and emptiness insights. 

You may think otherwise but I think you really wasting time here if you insist on trying to convince me otherwise. There is 0 doubts here about my realizations.

If you wish to understand the anatman and emptiness realization, then you have to approach AtR materials with open mindedness and sincerity. 

Otherwise, you are free to think as you wish, and I have no time to entertain your comments.

3 Responses
  1. Anonymous Says:

    Well , it may b too much to day u hv zero understanding for certainly u had some spiritual experiences ..... but unfortunately u had wrongly interpreted those experiences and equate them with the highest Supreme ..... they are not ....
    and dis partly had to be 'blamed' on buddhism .... buddhism is an incomplete teachings .... it will only lead its followers 1/2 way ....

  2. Soh Says:

    I myself, and many others, will not agree with you from experience.

    “ Zen teacher Alex Weith, who went through Atman-Brahman realization before realizing anatman, said well in his well written writings that I compiled here :

    What I realized also is that authoritative self-realized students of direct students of both Ramana Maharishi and Nisargadatta Maharaj called me a 'Jnani', inviting me to give satsangs and write books, while I had not yet understood the simplest core principles of Buddhism. I realized also that the vast majority of Buddhist teachers, East and West, never went beyond the same initial insights (that Adhyashanti calls "an abiding awakening"), confusing the Atma with the ego, assuming that transcending the ego or self-center (ahamkara in Sanskrit) was identical to what the Buddha had called Anatta (Non-Atma).

    It would seem therefore that the Buddha had realized the Self at a certain stage of his acetic years (it is not that difficult after all) and was not yet satisfied. As paradoxical as it may seem, his "divide and conquer strategy" aimed at a systematic deconstruction of the Self (Atma, Atta), reduced to -and divided into- what he then called the five aggregates of clinging and the six sense-spheres, does lead to further and deeper insights into the nature of reality. As far as I can tell, this makes me a Buddhist, not because I find Buddhism cool and trendy, but because I am unable to find other teachings and traditions that provide a complete set of tools and strategies aimed at unlocking these ultimate mysteries, even if mystics from various traditions did stumble on the same stages and insights often unknowingly.


    This also means that the first step is to disembed from impermanent
    phenomena until the only thing that feels real is this all pervading
    uncreated all pervading awareness that feels like the source and
    substance of phenomena. Holding on to it after this realization can
    hower become a subtle form of grasping diguised as letting go.

    The second step is therefore to realize that this brightness, awakeness or
    luminosity is there very nature of phenomena and then only does the
    duality between the True Self and the appearences arising and passing
    within the Self dissolve, revealing the suchness of what is.

    The next step that I found very practical is to push the process of
    deconstruction a step further, realizing that all that is experienced
    is one of the six consciousness. In other words, there is neither a
    super Awareness beyond phenomena, not solid material objects, but only
    six streams of sensory experiences. The seen, the heard, the sensed,
    the tasted, the smelled and the cognized (including thoughts, emotions,
    and subtle thougths like absorbtion states, jhanas).

    At this point it is not difficult to see how relevent the Bahiya Sutta can become.


  3. Soh Says:


    Just for the sake of clarification, I would like to make it clear that I never said that "these luminous self-perceiving phenomena which are craving-free and nondual are the Ultimate", if there could still be any ambiguity about that.

    On the contrary, I said that what I used to take for an eternal, empty, uncreated, nondual, primordial awareness, source and substance of all things, turned out to be nothing more than the luminous nature of phenomena, themselves empty and ungraspable, somehow crystallized in a very subtle witnessing position. The whole topic of this thread is the deconstruction of this Primordial Awareness, One Mind, Cognizing Emptiness, Self, Atman, Luminous Mind, Tathagatgabha, or whatever we may call it,

    As shocking as it may seem, the Buddha was very clear to say that this pure impersonal objectless nondual awareness (that Vedantists called Atma in Sanskrit, Atta in Pali) is still the aggregate of consciousness and that consciousness, as pure and luminous as it can be, does not stand beyond the aggregates.

    "Any kind of consciousness whatever, whether past, future or presently arisen, whether gross or subtle, whether in oneself or external, whether inferior or superior, whether far or near must, with right understanding how it is, be regarded thus: 'This is not mine, this is not I, this is not my self.'" (Anatta-lakkhana Sutta).


    Another dharma teacher who underwent similar journey from Vedanta realization (confirmed to be deep and profound by his Vedanta teachers and asked to teach) before going into Buddhist realization is Archaya Mahayogi Shridhar Rana Rinpoche, you can read about his bio and articles here: