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The more I read Nargajuna’s Middle Way (MMK- mulamadhyamakakarika), the more I find the usual way of perceiving the world seem so weird and strange.
Concepts which are taken for granted to be true like :
Arising and dissolution
Cause and effect
Movement
Characteristics of things
Actions
.. Are only fictional. If one investigate just a lil bit, they don’t even make any sense, ludicrous even.
Nargajuna is truly masterful. For us modern ppl who didn’t go through the middle way school standard training, I find it slightly easier to read MMK after insight of anatta and some direct experience into emptiness, even with that it takes up a lot of brain juice. Not easy but easier with repeated reads.
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Jayson MPaul
Yes all those concepts yielded great results when continuously seen through in practice.
Arising seen through is non-arisen insight
Cause and effect can lead to conditionaly/DO
Movement deconstructs identity over space
Characteristics was instrumental in second-fold emptiness
Actions can lead to total exertion glimpses (at least so far)
Yin Ling
Jayson MPaul well said ![🙂](https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/emoji.php/v9/ta5/1.5/16/1f642.png)
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Sumit Kumar
What is second fold emptiness and total exertion?
Yin Ling
Sumit Kumar second fold emptiness is emptiness of all phenomenas (first fold is emptiness of the personal self)
And total exertion basically is
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What is Total Exertion?
Sumit Kumar
That's wonderful
Total exertion very interesting.
I
tried to observe the conditions of the current experience, then I came
back to thinking. And it felt like "me" doing is stressful and the whole
experience supported by the conditions felt relaxing.
Though now I am not very sure
Sumit Kumar
But what Jayson meant when he said "Actions can lead to total exertion"…
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Jayson MPaul
Sumit Kumar
i meant the deconstruction of action after anatta can lead to total
exertion glimpses. MMK is great for working through all your cognitive
obscurations and blindspots
Sredharan Ramakrishna
When reading a book, how long the ideas stay in yr awareness?
Yin Ling
Sredharan Ramakrishna I don’t get what you mean? Sorry
Sredharan Ramakrishna
Yin Ling i used to read books thinking they provide answers, now my view is just books provide mind entertainment.
Yin Ling
Sredharan Ramakrishna depends on what you read. And how you read ![🙂](https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/emoji.php/v9/ta5/1.5/16/1f642.png)
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Sumit Kumar
Isn't arising and dissolution, movement, cause and effect are experiential?
Isn't fictional only applies to conceptual understanding of above truths?
Yin Ling
Sumit Kumar hehe need to read MMK to understand ![🙂](https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/emoji.php/v9/ta5/1.5/16/1f642.png)
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Mark Lackey
Hi Yin! Would you mind sharing which particular translation you are reading?
Yin Ling
Mark Lackey I use mark siderits ![🙂](https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/emoji.php/v9/ta5/1.5/16/1f642.png)
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Mark Lackey
Thank you ![🙏](https://static.xx.fbcdn.net/images/emoji.php/v9/td9/1.5/16/1f64f.png)
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