William Lim yap ur right. I would say arise due to conditions. Cause make it complicated.
Like If u need 1000000 conditions to arise one “thing”, and if one of the condition is not there the “thing” won’t manifest, can u say that “thing” actually exist?
If it exist Where’s u wanna find that thing, in one of the 10000000 conditions?
Then can u say that “thing” arise?
Like u need sun, u need an eye, eye consciousness, rain dust plus so many other conditions for a rainbow to appear.. so where is the rainbow actually? U can point to it? Which condition has the rainbow?
So Can u say the rainbow “arise”? Or remain ? Or cease ?
So if u see everything is like such rainbow, it is non-arising.
Never was there. Just an appearance due to coming together of a bunch of conditions
Idk if I’m confusing u?
Yin Ling I think I get it.
Every "thing" is a result of conditions, so there isn't really a "thing", not one with inherent existence anyway. The "thing" is just a result of conditions, and there is no "thingness" inside the thing.
If there isn't a "thing", then there isn't a thing to arise or cease.
Like that is it?
William Lim I understand what u mean.
I contemplated this v long actually don’t understand why ppl say non arising
It v hard for me to explain but one day I was playing with some images in my mind creating an image of a tent with the 4 sticks holding each other up.. then suddenly I understnd the “slanted sticks” are not really there existing. I can see “slanted sticks” in the exact arrangement of a tent because of 3 other sticks. If there is no 3 other sticks there’s no “slanted stick” in that exact way. Same with other sticks.
So I took that understanding to everything else. Like a cup. There is no cup. I only see a cup appearing because of so many conditions. There is no “cup” as such. Not even there. My mind put it together so I have a perception.
Hahahah I am going to confused u now until now I still cannot explain how I come to this insight