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This weird, oddly specific thing started happening this year and only recently have I started looking into as a clue towards fabrication and the visual field. I sleep with an eye mask on. Several months ago I went to lay down...and there is the room. The fan, the window, the blankets. And I think "this eye mask is a piece of shit". But then "wait, my eyes are closed". I can move my hands in front of my face, turn my head and it's all there. Not clear by any means. It's dark and fuzzy. But everything "moves" and "appears" like it would with open eyes. The visual field has been the toughest to see through for me. What color is distance, right? I mean I just don't get it
When visual goes non-dual it is so damn obvious from that place. And when it's dualistic....well it's not so obvious anymore haha.

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Albert Hong
It’s fascinating that depth is a learned phenomena.
Soh Wei Yu
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I wrote about distance on my first article right after my anatta realisation
My commentary on Bahiya Sutta
Note: You can also see my complete journal of self-discoveries at http://www.box.net/shared/3verpiao63
Originally posted by simpo_:
Hi Beautiful951,
Firstly, I will like to state that I am still learning so can only
share from my own opinion. Please read with a pint of salt.
Emptiness is not a belief but an insight that can be borne from
experience. It is better to experience it for oneself as before and
after the insight, it can still be 'unbelievable' for the mind.
Emptiness is quite hard to experience and usually the realisation of
no-self comes before emptiness.
As mentioned, no-self will be easier to realise. I will describe the
insight of no-self/egolessness generally here. When doing insight
meditation one may realise that the sensory experiences (including
mental formation/thinking) are arising and passing away independently of
one another. That is, seeing is seeing, hearing is hearing, thinking is
thinking and they are all flowing independently. With that observation,
one will realise that there is no self holding all these sensory
experiences together. Self that we originally assumed, is just these
sensory experiences arising and passing away and the attention focusing
on them.
As for
emptiness, it requires a deeper penetration into consciousness.
Emptiness reveals that everything is not physical and solid at all...
but are 'holographically united'. There is no way to accurately describe
it as it is not the way a mind unaware to it will think. Like the first
insight of no-self, emptiness is a paradigm shift... towards ever
clearer seeing of the truth of Reality.
Please understand that seeing emptiness is not end of story. At
least, not for my case. I am currently working on the remaining
defilements. This doesn't meant that i will need to forcefully remove
them. Forceful willing will only result in suppression. Rather, the
'method' is to be aware of and be equanimous to whatever that is arising
in order for them to pass away naturally. This 'aware of' is not as
easy as it sounds.
Regards
Thanks for the sharing...
I was reminded of Bahiya Sutta while you said 'seeing is seeing'...
In the seen, there is only the seen,
in the heard, there is only the heard,
in the sensed, there is only the sensed,
in the cognized, there is only the cognized.
Thus you should see that
indeed there is no thing here;
this, Bahiya, is how you should train yourself.
Since, Bahiya, there is for you
in the seen, only the seen,
in the heard, only the heard,
in the sensed, only the sensed,
in the cognized, only the cognized,
and you see that there is no thing here,
you will therefore see that
indeed there is no thing there.
As you see that there is no thing there,
you will see that
you are therefore located neither in the world of this,
nor in the world of that,
nor in any place
betwixt the two.
This alone is the end of suffering.” (ud. 1.10)
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My own comments:
Non-duality
is very simple and obvious and direct... and yet always missed! Due to a
very fundamental flaw in our ordinary dualistic framework of things...
and our deep rooted belief in duality.
In
the seen, there is just the seen! It is completely non-dual... there is
no 'the seen + a perceiver here seeing the seen'.... The seen is
precisely the seeing! There is not two or three things: seer, seeing,
and the seen. That split is entirely conceptual (though taken to be
reality)... it is a conclusion due to a referencing back of a direct
experience (like a sight or a sound) to a centerpoint. This centerpoint
could be a vague identification and contraction to one's mind and body
(and this 'center of identification within the body' could be like two
inches behind your eyes or on the lower body or elsewhere), or the
centerpoint could be an identification with a previous nondual
recognition or authentication like the I AM or Eternal Witness
experience/realization. It could even be that one has gained sufficient
stability to simply rest in the state of formless Beingness throughout
all experiences, but if they cling to their formless samadhi or a
'purest state of Presence', they will miss the fact that they are not
just the formless pure existence but that they are/existence is also all
the stuff of the universe arising moment to moment... And when one
identifies oneself as this entity that is behind and separated from the
seen, this prevents the direct experience of what manifestation and
no-self is.
But
in direct experience it is simply not like that: there is nothing like
subject-object duality in direct experience.... only This - seen, heard,
sensed, cognized. Prior to self-referencing, this is what exists in its
primordial purity.
So,
in the seen, there's just That! Scenery, trees, road, etc... but when I
label these as such, instead of putting a more subjective term such as
'experiencing'.... they tend to conjure images of an objective world
that is 'out there' made of multiple different objects existing in time
and space separated by distances.
But
no, the Buddha says: in the seen, just the seen! There is no thing
'here' (apart from the seen).... nor something 'there' (as if the seen
is an objective reality out there). From the perspective of the logical
framework of things, the world is made of distance, depth, entities,
objects, time, space, and so on, but if you take away the reference
point of a self... there is simply Pure Consciousness of What Is
(whatever manifests) without distance or fragmentation. You need at
least two reference points to measure distance... but all reference
points (be it of an apparent subjective self or an apparent external
object) are entirely illusory and conceptual. If there is no 'self'
here, and that you are equally everything... what distance is there?
Without a self, there is no 'out there'...
The seen is neither subjective nor objective.... it just IS....
There
is pure seeing, pure hearing, everything arising without an external
reference other than the scenery being the seeing without seer, the
sound being the hearing without hearer (and vice versa: the hearing
being just the sound, the manifestation).
But
even the word 'hearing', 'seeing', 'awareness' can conjure an image of
what Awareness is.... As if there is really an entity called 'hearing'
or 'seeing' or 'awareness' that remains and stays constant and
unchanged.
But....
if you contemplate on "How am I experiencing the moment of being
alive?", or, "How am I experiencing the moment of hearing?", or "How am I
experiencing the moment of seeing?" or "How am I experiencing the
moment of being aware?"
All
the bullshit concepts, constructs and images of an 'aliveness', a
'hearing', a 'seeing', an 'awareness' simply dissolves in the direct
experiencing of whatever arises... just 'seeing is seeing, hearing is
hearing, thinking is thinking and they are all flowing independently',
with 'no self holding all these sensory experiences together'.
If
readers find my explanation a bit too hard to grasp, please read Ajahn
Amaro's link because he explains it much better than me.
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My commentary on Bahiya Sutta
Soh Wei Yu
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Don't
just focus on the nondual experience but contemplate (2 stanzas of
anatta, bahiya sutta, etc) to see through the illusion of an agent,
watcher, experiencer, seer, hearer, and so on... and even a 'seeing' or
'hearing' besides colors and sounds. Distance and depth and so on will
take care of itself.
Mr. J.P. H
Author
Soh Wei Yu
Thank you Soh. I had been grasping at the nondual view without even
realizing it. Trying to "feel into it" instead of just "this as it is".
Soh Wei Yu
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Mr. J.P. H It has to be contemplated until the view of anatta is realized without a trace of doubt.
The view being like https://awakeningtoreality.blogspot.com/.../the-wind-is... and http://www.awakeningtoreality.com/.../marshland-flowers... and http://www.awakeningtoreality.com/.../just-manifestation... and http://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2020/06/choosing.html and https://awakeningtoreality.blogspot.com/.../alan-watts...
Beware of treating bahiya sutta as merely a way of training an experience of no-mind, believe I mentioned before - http://www.awakeningtoreality.com/.../robert-dominiks...
Soh Wei Yu
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They
will take care of itself as they are all based on the delusional
internal and external reference point which is dropped when seen
through.
Kyle Dixon wrote:
"Raw
awareness is called vijñāna in unrealized sentient beings, which is
dualistic and comprised of a threefold division of sensory faculty
[eye], sense function [sight] and sensory object [visual appearances].
In
everyday people, even if conceptualization is absent, vijñāna is still
experienced as dualistic because we feel we remain in an internal
reference point and that objects are “over there” at a distance.
Through
practice however we have the opportunity to experientially realize
emptiness, and when emptiness is realized, vijñāna reverts to its
natural state as jñāna. Jñāna is a non-dual modality of cognition where
the inner reference point and external objects are realized to be
false."
"Selflessness
means there is ultimately no actual subject, which means there is no
actual internal reference point that is apprehending sensory phenomena.
In
describing this simply it means through your practice you will
hopefully, eventually, awaken to recognize that there is no actual seer
of sights, no hearer of sounds, and so on. The feeling of an internal
seer or hearer, etc., is a useful but false construct that is created
and fortified by various causes and conditions.
We
suffer when we cling to this construct and think it is actually real.
Recognition of the actual nature of that construct is liberating and
freeing."