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 Ryan WeeksSoh Wei Yu yes. The path my teacher and others, both Soto and Rinzai, teach is counting breath-->koan-->kensho and eventually shikantaza.
Огњен Пушац
What practice does she do?
Yin Ling
Огњен Пушац Samatha and vipassana 

Огњен Пушац
Yin Ling would shikantaza be something similar to samatha?
Yin Ling
Hmm.. I am not sure exactly what Shikantanza entails. 
But I did do some “do nothing” meditation or you can call it “open awareness” midway. And now even. 
And I find that both Samantha and vipassana intermix . 
Actually
 I did a lot of stuff lol, my teacher was trying really hard to break 
down my “self” along the path. She call it my toolbox  haha.
 haha. 
 haha.
 haha. She
 probably can see my conditions and prescribe me the medicine becusse 
she told me not everyone will work with what she gave me to do. 
I’m careful of advising , hence.
Огњен Пушац
Yin Ling I get it. Thank You for Your sincere answers  . Is it too much to ask who Your teacher is?
. Is it too much to ask who Your teacher is?
 . Is it too much to ask who Your teacher is?
. Is it too much to ask who Your teacher is?Yin Ling
Огњен Пушац
 I won’t put it out in public coz she doesn’t want publicity and I have 
to respect her privacy. But if you are sincerely looking for a teacher 
you could personally message me any time. 

Огњен Пушац
Yin Ling I will!
Soh Wei Yu
Yin Ling
 Shikantaza (只管打坐) is actualization of anatta. As Hong Wen Liang often 
said, shikantaza is not "meditation". And it is not "you" meditating or 
"you" sitting. Sitting is sitting. Universe is sitting.
Ryan Weeks
Soh Wei Yuthere
 are several very different understandings of shikantaza, be careful. I 
like yours. But most people think of shikantaza as sitting down and 
doing nothing, then expecting realization. But it is rare.  Yours only 
makes sense after some realization. Before that, you have to break 
through somehow. And sitting doing nothing is not usually enough.
Ryan Weeks
Since shikantaza is literally "only/just sitting" and is interpreted dogmatically by most in Soto Zen these days.
Soh Wei Yu
I like this article:
Excerpt:
In
 authentic shikan-taza neither of these two elements of faith can be 
dispensed with. To exclude satori from shikan-taza would necessarily 
involve stigmatizing as meaningless and even masochistic the Buddha's 
strenuous efforts toward enlightenment, and impugning the Ancestral 
Teachers' and Dogen's own painful struggles to that end. This relation 
of satori to shikan-taza is of the utmost importance. Unfortunately it 
has often been misunderstood, especially by those to whom Dogen's 
complete writings are inaccessible. It thus not infrequently happens 
that Western students will come to a Soto temple or monastery utilizing 
koans in its teaching and remonstrate with the master over the 
assignment; since all are intrinsically enlightened, they argue, there 
is no point in seeking satori. So what they ask to practice is 
shikan-taza, which they believe does not involve the experience of 
enlightenment.[5]
    [5]For the attitude of one such novice, see p. 147.
Such
 an attitude reveals not only a lack of faith in the judgment of one's 
teacher but a fundamental misconception of both the nature and the 
difficulty of shikan-taza, not to mention the teaching methods employed 
in Soto temples and monasteries. A careful reading of these introductory
 lectures and Yasutani-roshi's encounters with ten Westerners will make 
clear why genuine shikan-taza cannot be successfully undertaken by the 
rank novice, who has yet to learn how to sit with stability and 
equanimity, or whose ardor needs to be regularly boosted by communal 
sitting or by the encouragement of a teacher, or who, above all, lacks 
strong faith in his or her own Bodhi-mind coupled with a dedicated 
resolve to experience its reality in one's daily life.
Because
 today, Zen masters claim, devotees are on the whole much less zealous 
for truth, and because the obstacles to practice posed by the 
complexities of modern life are more numerous, capable Soto masters 
seldom assign shikan-taza to a beginner. They prefer to have the student
 first unify the mind through concentration on counting the breaths; or 
where a burning desire for enlightenment does exist, to exhaust the 
discursive intellect through the imposition of a special type of Zen 
problem (that is, a koan) and thus prepare the way for kensho.
By
 no means, then, is the koan system confined to the Rinzai sect as many 
believe. Yasutani-roshi is only one of a number of Soto masters who use 
koans in their teaching. Genshu Watanabe-roshi, the former abbot of 
Soji-ji, one of the two head temples of the Soto sect in Japan, 
regularly employed koans, and at the Soto monastery of Hosshinji, of 
which the illustrious Harada-roshi was abbot during his lifetime, koans 
are also widely used.
Even
 Dogen himself, as we have seen, disciplined himself in koan Zen for 
eight years before going to China and practicing shikan-taza. And though
 upon his return to Japan Dogen wrote at length about shikan-taza and 
recommended it for his inner band of disciples, it must not be forgotten
 that these disciples were dedicated truth-seekers for whom koans were 
an unnecessary encouragement to sustained practice. Notwithstanding this
 emphasis on shikan-taza, Dogen made a compilation of three hundred 
well-known koans,[6] to each of which he added his own commentary. From 
this and the fact that his foremost work, the Shobogenzo (A Treasury of 
the Eye of the True Dharma), contains a number of koans, we may fairly 
conclude that he did utilize koans in his teaching.
    [6]In Nempyo Sambyaku Soku (Three Hundred Koans with Commentaries).
Satori-awakening
 as Dogen viewed it was not the be-all and end-all. Rather he conceived 
it as the foundation for a magnificent edifice whose many-storied 
superstructure would correspond to the perfected character and 
personality of the spiritually developed individual, the woman or man of
 moral virtue and all-embracing compassion and wisdom. Such an imposing 
structure, Dogen taught, could be erected only by years of faithful 
zazen upon the solid base of the immutable inner knowledge which satori 
confers.
What then is 
zazen and how is it related to satori? Dogen taught that zazen is the 
"gateway to total liberation," and Keizan-zenji, one of the Japanese 
Soto Dharma Ancestors, had declared that only through Zen sitting is the
 "human mind illumined." Elsewhere Dogen wrote [7] that "even the 
Buddha, who was a born sage, sat in zazen for six years until his 
supreme enlightenment, and so towering a spiritual figure as Bodhidharma
 sat for nine years facing the wall."[8] And so have Dogen and all the 
other great masters sat.
    [7]In his Fukan Zazengi (Universal Promotion of the Principles of Zazen).
    [8]Following Bodhidharma's example, Soto devotees face a wall or 
curtain during zazen. In the Rinzai tradition sitters face each other 
across the room in two rows, their backs to the wall.
For
 with the ordering and immobilizing of feet, legs, hands, arms, trunk, 
and head in the traditional lotus posture,[9] with the regulation of the
 breath, the methodical stilling of the thoughts and unificatio of the 
mind through special modes of concentration, with the development of 
control over the emotions and strengthening of the will, and with the 
cultivation of a profound silence in the deepest recesses of the 
mind--in other words, through the practice of zazen--there are 
established the optimum preconditions for looking into the heart-mind 
and discovering there the true nature of existence.
    [9]See p.36 and section IX.
Although
 sitting is the foundation of zazen, it is not just any kind of sitting.
 Not only must the back be straight, the breathing properly regulated, 
and the mind concentrated beyond thought, but, according to Dogen, one 
must sit with a sense of dignity and grandeur, like a mountain or a 
giant pine, and with a feeling of gratitute toward the Buddha and the 
Dharma Ancestors, who made magnifest the Dharma. And we must be grateful
 for our human body, through which we have the opportunity to experience
 the reality of the Dharma in all its profundity. This sense of dignity 
and gratitude, moreover, is not confined to sitting bu must inform every
 activity, for insofar as each act issues from the Bodhi-mind it has the
 inherent purity and dignity of Buddhahood. This innate dignity of the 
human being is physiologically manifested in an erect back, since humans
 alone of all creatures have this capacity to hold their spinal columns 
vertical. An erect back is related to proper sitting in other important 
ways, which will be discussed at a later point in this section.
In
 the broad sense zazen embraces more than just correct sitting. To enter
 fully into every action with total attention and clear awareness is no 
less zazen. The prescription for accomplishing this was given by the 
Buddha himself in an early sutra: "In what is seen there must be just 
the seen; in what is heard there must be just the heard; in what is 
sensed (as smell, taste or touch) there must be just what is sensed; in 
what is thought there must be just the thought."[10]

TEREBESS.HU
安谷 (白雲) 量衡 Yasutani (Hakuun) Ryōkō (1885-1973)
Soh Wei Yu
John TanWednesday, October 1, 2014 at 4:11pm UTC+08
Imo he cannot just teach 只管打坐 (shikantaza, only sitting) for anatta, must 参 (contemplate)
Soh Wei YuWednesday, October 1, 2014 at 4:12pm UTC+08
oic..
Soh Wei YuWednesday, October 1, 2014 at 4:12pm UTC+08
yeah his explanation for zazen is like 'zuo wang' (forget self)
Soh Wei YuWednesday, October 1, 2014 at 4:12pm UTC+08
fusing into everything
Soh Wei YuWednesday, October 1, 2014 at 4:12pm UTC+08
but it seems like a stage
Soh Wei YuWednesday, October 1, 2014 at 4:12pm UTC+08
im not sure how that can lead to anatta
John TanWednesday, October 1, 2014 at 4:14pm UTC+08
One must 参 (contemplate) the view
John TanWednesday, October 1, 2014 at 4:14pm UTC+08
Because karmic tendencies r strong
John TanWednesday, October 1, 2014 at 4:15pm UTC+08
However it is sincerity that counts
John TanWednesday, October 1, 2014 at 4:15pm UTC+08
Otherwise it is only an experience
John TanWednesday, October 1, 2014 at 4:16pm UTC+08
Unless one is truly wise otherwise it is not easy to realize ANATTA and progress to the prajna wisdom that penetrates extremes.
Soh Wei YuWednesday, October 1, 2014 at 4:21pm UTC+08
oic..
Soh Wei YuWednesday, October 1, 2014 at 4:21pm UTC+08
i wonder how he leads people to anatta
John TanWednesday, October 1, 2014 at 5:52pm UTC+08
I
 think his 只管打坐 (shikantaza; only sitting) is to directly experience his
 teachings so there is no 参 (contemplate) Koan per say but directly 
experience what he taught and explain.
Soh Wei YuWednesday, October 1, 2014 at 5:54pm UTC+08
Oic.. but experience not necessarily will have realization isnt it
John TanWednesday, October 1, 2014 at 6:13pm UTC+08
It
 is not just experience, there is realization. It is just that it is a 
guided journey rather than a on one's own after certain pith 
instructions or koan.
John TanWednesday, October 1, 2014 at 7:02pm UTC+08
Lol...but
 one also needs to know the insights of the individual. After certain 
lvl of insights spoon feeding becomes a disservice to one's progress.
John TanWednesday, October 1, 2014 at 9:34pm UTC+08
That said, as 洪文良has too many students, it is not possible to monitor the progress of each student
........
Soh: One more comment 
Hong Wen Liang also utilize koan -- he also gave me a koan before.
 
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