The question posed by Mr. A—"How does your view treat
reality outside of one's mind? Do you believe that everything is mind, or is
there reality distinct from it that interacts with the mind?"—cuts to the
heart of one of the most enduring dilemmas in philosophy and contemplative
inquiry. It presents a binary choice that has defined much of Western and
Eastern thought: are you an idealist, who posits that reality is fundamentally
mental, or a realist, who holds that a physical world exists independently of our
perception of it?"
As John Tan commented, "Dependent arising is precisely
to address these extreme views via emptiness."
John Tan also said in 2015: "External objects are only valid conventionally, not ultimately. What cannot be separated was mistaken as separated due to conventions, and then when we attempt to trace back using our existing paradigm, we logically deduce it must be either oneness in substance or as interactions between entities. However, one that has tasted anatta in real time sees that neither is true. It cannot be expressed either as one substance or as an interaction between separate entities. One further refines one's view through MMK (Mūlamadhyamakakārikā) and realizes the impossibility of manifestation in such views. The mind can then willingly release itself and rest in empty, non-arising appearances.
If we refuse to clearly see the two truths, the mind will never find its place; it cannot rest, as it is unable to release the paradigm that defines it. To be thoughtless and non-conceptual are not the right antidotes to free the mind from extremes, and experience that is empty, non-dual, and non-arisen will be distorted. This is just my opinion."
The perspective offered
here, rooted in the Madhyamaka ("Middle Way") school of Mahāyāna
Buddhism founded by the philosopher Nāgārjuna, is that this very dichotomy is a
conceptual trap. The "answer" is not to choose a side but to
deconstruct the premises upon which the question is built. The view is not that
"everything is mind," nor is it that a solid, mind-independent
reality exists "out there." By using the analytical tools of
dependent origination (pratītyasamutpāda), emptiness (śūnyatā), and non-arising
(anutpāda), we can arrive at a more subtle, dynamic, and experientially
verifiable understanding.
1. The Central Thesis: Appearances Are Not Mind, Nor
Other-Than-Mind
A clear and concise entry point into this view is captured
perfectly in the article from Awakening to Reality you provided. It
states:
“…there is no mind apart from appearance and no
appearance apart from mind.”
This statement is the cornerstone of the entire framework.
It dissolves the perceived duality between an internal "subject"
(mind) and an external "object" (appearance/reality), thereby
avoiding both idealism and naïve realism from the outset. Let's unpack this in
detail:
- No
appearance apart from mind: When we try to locate an appearance or an
object—a tree, a sound, a feeling—entirely separate from the consciousness
that cognizes it, we fail. An "unperceived object" is a pure
abstraction. The very qualities that define an object (its color, shape,
texture) are known only through the faculties of perception and cognition.
Its "object-ness" is conferred upon it by a subject.
- No
mind apart from appearance: Conversely, when we turn our attention
inward to find the "mind" or "consciousness" that is
doing the perceiving, we cannot locate it as a standalone entity. What is
mind without something to be mindful of? It has no color, no shape,
no location. We only ever find the mind in action, seamlessly fused
with the content of its experience—the seeing of sights, the hearing of
sounds, the thinking of thoughts.
What we actually encounter in any given moment is a single,
indivisible event of "experiencing" which we conceptually and
retroactively split into a "perceiver" and a "perceived."
The Madhyamaka view asserts that this split is a fabrication of thought, not a
reflection of fundamental reality.
2. The Engine of Analysis: Dependent Origination
(Pratītyasamutpāda)
How does Madhyamaka justify this radical claim? The primary
analytical tool is the principle of Dependent Origination, which states that no
phenomenon exists autonomously. Everything arises in dependence upon other
factors. The classic Buddhist formula is: "When this is, that is. From the
arising of this, that arises."
Nāgārjuna applies this principle relentlessly to the act of
perception itself. He famously analyzes the triad of the Sense Organ, the Sense
Object, and the Sense Consciousness. This interdependent relationship is made
explicit in his Mūlamadhyamakakārikā (MMK), or "Fundamental Verses
on the Middle Way."
MMK
Verse
|
Point
Made
|
Dependency
Shown
|
26:4
|
“Dependent
on the eye and on form, and on attention, consciousness arises.”
|
🧠 Consciousness ⇐ 👁️ Eye + 🎨 Form
|
26:5
|
“The
conjunction of the three … is contact.” The event of seeing is the
co-presence of all three.
|
Seeing
= 👁️ + 🎨 + 🧠
|
3:6
(summary)
|
If you
remove the “seer,” there can be no “seen” nor any “seeing.”
|
Each
pole collapses without the others.
|
First, in MMK 26:4, he establishes the dependency of
consciousness:
Sanskrit: cakṣuḥ
pratītya rūpaṃ ca ...
vijñānaṃ saṃpravartate (MMK 26.4)
Siderits-Katsura translate: “Dependent on the eye and on
form, and on attention, consciousness arises.” (GRETIL, 2010)
Second, in Chapter 3, Nāgārjuna generalizes this to the
entire "seer-seeing-seen" complex. The lynchpin verse is MMK 3:6:
Sanskrit: draṣṭā
nāsty atiraskṛtya tiraskṛtya ca darśanam | draṣṭavyaṃ darśanaṃ
caiva draṣṭary asati te
kutaḥ || (MMK 3.6)
Garfield translates: “If there is no seer apart from seeing,
nor seeing apart from the seer, how could there be the seen (object) or the act
of seeing when the seer is absent?” (Garfield, 1995)
These three elements are like three sticks propping one
another up in a tripod. If you remove any one stick, the other two immediately
fall. None of them is the independent "foundation"; their stability
is their mutual, simultaneous dependence. It is crucial to note that Nāgārjuna
is applying his analytical method to the Buddha's own teachings on the twelve
links of dependent origination, found in foundational Pāli suttas like the Madhupiṇḍika Sutta ("The
Honeyball Sutta," MN 18) and the Chachakka Sutta ("The Six
Sets of Six," MN 148).
A modern analogy maps perfectly to this triad:
Smartphone
Component
|
Madhyamaka
Triad Counterpart
|
Camera
Sensor
|
Eye
(Sense Organ)
|
Scene/View
|
Visible
Form (Sense Object)
|
Image
Signal/Data
|
Eye-Consciousness
(Sense Consciousness)
|
The "photo" as an event of consciousness only
occurs when all three are functioning together. A dead battery ⚡
(no sensor), a lens cap 🏴 (no scene), or a
processor crash 💥 (no signal generation)
means the photo-event never appears. The image is not a thing that exists in
the sensor, in the scene, or in the processor. It is nothing over
and above that momentary, interdependent synergy.
3. The Result of Analysis: Emptiness (Śūnyatā) and Dependent
Designation
This radical interdependence leads directly to the core
Madhyamaka doctrine of emptiness (śūnyatā). This is arguably the most
misunderstood concept in all of Buddhism. Emptiness does not mean non-existence
or nihilism. It means the absence of svabhāva—intrinsic, independent,
self-sufficient existence.
Because every part of the triad (organ, object,
consciousness) depends on the others for its very existence and definition, no
single part possesses its own inherent nature. It is "empty" of being
a standalone thing. This logical progression is key: Dependent Origination
reveals a lack of intrinsic existence, and this lack is what is termed
emptiness.
This is where Nāgārjuna's most famous verse, MMK 24:18,
becomes the lynchpin of the entire philosophy, tying all the concepts together:
"Whatever is dependently arisen, we declare that to be
emptiness;
Being dependently designated, that itself is the Middle
Way." (MMK 24:18)
The second line, "Being dependently designated"
(prajn~aptirupādāya), means that our words—"eye," "form,"
"consciousness," "mind," "world"—are convenient
labels or conventions we apply to this web of interdependent processes. The
label is useful for communication (this is its conventional truth), but it
doesn't point to a static, self-enclosed entity.
Crucially, this does not invalidate conventional reality.
The Madhyamaka view is not a denial of the world but a denial of a specific,
imaginary way of being (i.e., inherent existence). By seeing that phenomena are
empty of a solid, independent core, we are not left with nothing. Rather,
conventional functioning is seen more clearly for what it is: a dynamic,
relational, and vibrant play of appearances. As some teachers put it, seeing
emptiness doesn't destroy the world; it destroys the illusion of a solid,
graspable world, allowing for a more fluid and less fraught engagement with it
(Barre Center for Buddhist Studies).
4. The Ultimate Implication: Non-Arising (Anutpāda)
This leads to the most profound and subtle implication of
the Madhyamaka view: non-arising (anutpāda). If a phenomenon lacks an
independent essence (svabhāva) and can never be found to exist on its own, then
from an ultimate perspective, it never truly "arose" as a
self-contained entity in the first place.
This does not deny the vivid, functional reality of our
experience. The denial is of a specific mode of existence. Things appear,
function, and have effects—this is their conventional truth (saṃvṛti−satya).
But their ultimate truth (paramārtha−satya) is their emptiness of inherent
existence, their "non-arisen" nature.
The rainbow is the perfect analogy:
In the same way, the world of experience—including mind and
matter—is like a magical display: vividly apparent yet ultimately unfindable as
a collection of solid, independent things. This is powerfully stated in MMK
25:22-24, which concludes with the "pacification of all
proliferation" (prapan~ca−upaśama), where the conceptual fabrication that
projects inherent existence onto this fluid display ceases.
5. Transcending the Extremes: A Practical Summary
With this framework in place, we can now directly address
the initial dichotomy of idealism and realism and see how the Middle Way avoids
both. The entire argument refutes these two extreme views.
Extreme
View
|
Claim
Made
|
The
Madhyamaka Refutation
|
Idealism
|
"Only
mind is real; objects are mere projections of mind."
|
"Mind"
itself is conditional and dependently arisen. It requires an organ and an
object to function as mind in any given moment. Thus, it cannot be the
ultimate, foundational substance.
|
Naïve
Realism
|
"Objects
exist 'out there' with their own inherent properties, independent of any
mind."
|
An
"object" only functions as such within the perceptual triad. Its
"object-ness" is a relational quality, a dependent designation, not
an intrinsic, mind-independent property.
|
The
Middle Way
|
Reality
is a co-arising nexus of interdependent factors, empty of essence yet
functionally effective.
|
The
identity of Dependent Origination and Emptiness (MMK 24:18) provides the path
that cuts between the extremes of eternalism (inherent existence) and
nihilism (total non-existence).
|
Even more subtle philosophical positions, like the Yogācāra
school's concept of a "storehouse consciousness" (ālaya−vijn~āna),
are subjected to the same analysis by Madhyamaka thinkers. From a strict
Madhyamaka standpoint, even if one posits such a foundational consciousness,
that foundation itself must be analyzed. Upon analysis, it too would be found
to be dependent on conditions for its arising and therefore empty of being an
ultimate, self-sufficient ground.
Summary of Key Verses for Reference
- MMK
3:6: Establishes the mutual collapse of the seer/seeing/seen triad.
- MMK
26:4: Shows that consciousness is dependent on sense organ, object,
and attention.
- MMK
24:18: Equates dependent origination with emptiness and dependent
designation, defining the Middle Way.
- MMK
25:22-24: Points to the ultimate truth of non-arising and the
pacification of conceptual proliferation.
- MN
18 & MN 148: Key suttas from the early Pāli canon that describe
the triad of perception, forming the doctrinal basis for Nāgārjuna's
analysis.
Conclusion: A Self-Luminous, Ungraspable Display
To return to Mr. A's question: the view presented here does
not posit that everything is mind, nor that there is a reality distinct from
it. It points to the immediate, lived fact that "mind" and
"reality" are inseparable concepts that co-arise and co-define one
another in every single moment of experience.
The practical and experiential import of this understanding
is profound. When the deep-seated habit of solidifying a "self" or
"mind" on the inside and a "world" or "matter" on
the outside begins to relax, experience reveals itself for what it is: a fluid,
seamless, self-luminous display. There is no gap between knower and known to be
bridged. There is nothing to grasp onto as "real" and nothing to push
away as "non-existent".
What is conventionally called an external world continues to manifest (appear) but as an illusory display of radiant appearances and conventionalities, no longer reified.
Nagarjuna:
Verse 59.
Starting with ignorance and ending with aging
All processes that arise from
The twelve links of dependent origination
We accept them to be like a dream and an illusion.
Verse 60.
This wheel with twelve links
Rolls along the road of cyclic existence
Outside this, there cannot be sentient beings
Experiencing the fruits of their deeds.
Verse 61.
Just as in dependence upon a mirror
A full image of one's face appears
The face did not move onto the mirror
Yet without it, there is no image [of the face].
Verse 62.
Likewise, aggregates recompose in a new existence
Yet the wise always understand
That no one is born in another existence
Nor does someone transfer to such existence.
Verse 63.
In brief, from empty phenomena
Empty phenomena arise
Agent, karma, fruits, and their enjoyer –
The conqueror taught these to be [only] conventional.
Verse 64.
Just as the sound of a drum as well as a shoot
Are produced from a collection [of factors]
We accept the external world of dependent origination
To be like a dream and an illusion.
Verse 65.
That phenomena are born from causes
Can never be inconsistent [with facts]
Since the cause is empty of cause
We understand it to be empty of origination.
Verse 66.
The non-origination of all phenomena
Is clearly taught to be emptiness
In brief, the five aggregates are denoted
By [the expression] “all phenomena.”
Verse 67.
When the [ultimate] truth is explained as it is
The conventional is not obstructed
Independent of the conventional
No [ultimate] truth can be found.
Verse 68.
The conventional is taught to be emptiness
The emptiness itself is the conventional
One does not occur without the other
Just as [being] produced and impermanent.
John Tan wrote in 2020:
John Tan: That is, he [Mr. J] doesn't know how beautiful Prasangika nominalism is... ...focus on total exertion and dependent designations; it gels so perfectly and beautifully, and it has an entire view, world, or universe of its own. It integrates all without dispelling or affirming both the internal and external world (Middle Way) and thoroughly bases its entire world as names only. That is extremely beautiful, especially when you can integrate anatta, total exertion, and emptiness together. I only began to appreciate it recently when I contemplated Tsongkhapa's semantic nominalism seriously. I appreciate the two truths more and more, especially the conventional world, when seen together with the experiential insight of total exertion.
Soh Wei Yu: I see. Where can I read about Tsongkhapa's semantic nominalism?
John Tan: Actually, you can't just read about it. You must integrate it with the insight of total exertion and emptiness without resorting to non-conceptuality—just the linguistic beauty with all the constructs. Your current experiences and insights are sufficient to integrate them. The +A and -A are perfectly blended. All tastes of anatta, emptiness, and total exertion remain and gel so beautifully. The internal world and external world are bridged by being names only. No wonder Tsongkhapa doesn't need to reject the external world and doesn't need a reflexive awareness.
To sit with one final, summarizing thought for
contemplation:
Seeing is just the fleeting, interdependent meeting of
eye, form, and knowing—perfectly vivid, perfectly ungraspable.
References
- Garfield,
J. L. (1995). The Fundamental Wisdom of the Middle Way: Nāgārjuna's
Mūlamadhyamakakārikā. Oxford University Press. (Cited via Internet
Archive).
- Göttingen
Register of Electronic Texts in Indian Languages (GRETIL). (2010). Mūlamadhyamakakārikā,
based on the edition by J.W. de Jong. Retrieved from
gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de.
- SuttaCentral.
(n.d.). MN 18: Madhupiṇḍika
Sutta and MN 148: Chachakka Sutta. Retrieved from
suttacentral.net.
- Various
authors and sources cited parenthetically, including Study Buddhism, Barre
Center for Buddhist Studies, and Awakening to Reality.
Update:
Anarchist Chossid wrote: