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Buddhism and AI: Meeting Change with Wisdom

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Awakening to Reality · A conversation

Buddhism and AI: Meeting Change with Wisdom

A conversation with Soh and John Tan · 8 October 2026

Soh was reflecting on some recent discussions about artificial intelligence in online Buddhist communities.

In some English-language Buddhist spaces, including discussions on Reddit, he had encountered considerable hostility towards AI. This contrasted with the greater enthusiasm he felt he was encountering in some Chinese and other Asian contexts.

These are impressions from particular online spaces, rather than a comprehensive picture of “Western Buddhism” or “Asia.” Neither is homogeneous. Nevertheless, the contrast prompted a conversation about technological change, spiritual practice, and how we respond when familiar ways of living and working come under pressure.

The following exchange took place on 8 October 2026. The exchange has been edited for readability. Square brackets identify an editorial clarification. Duplicate reply previews and a stray letter have been omitted. Predictions and political assessments are the speakers’ views.

Soh

There’s a lot of AI hate in some of the Western Buddhist circles I’ve been seeing online—anti-AI narratives throughout discussions on the Buddhism subreddit, for example.

I think people should learn to use these tools and understand them. We can’t really expect technological progress to stop simply because we dislike it, lol.

In some of the Chinese and Asian spaces I follow, the atmosphere seems much more enthusiastic about AI.

John Tan

Lol. Progress will not wait for anyone. We can talk about spirituality and consciousness, but to deny or reject AI progress is naive.

A mature person must upgrade and update himself and see what really works. We can say it can’t replace spiritual liberation, but we can’t deny its progress.

But it will create lots of economic restructuring problems. Lots of unemployment, but lots of new opportunities in new ways.

We cannot just worry about feeling threatened. I doubt they are affected anywhere near as much as I am. My core accounting business might become obsolete; still, we have to face it. We can’t just sit and blame here and there.

My finance business is also affected.

The agentic AI course I was taking became obsolete before I even completed it… lol.

But instead of blaming, know the threats and know the opportunities. Economies will definitely be affected, and governments will have to think about how to solve these structural issues.

Many will reject it, including my partners and even my dad… lol. I have been educating them also.

But to date, I have never seen how the core teachings of Buddhism are affected. In fact, it sheds new light on how they can be re-presented.

It makes me aware that many fields are moving in accordance with the core philosophy, and that makes me happy… lol. Be it quantum physics, new mathematics, cognitive science, or even AI itself—topics I couldn’t even imagine associating with Buddhist ideas.

It’s like making videos and keeping on improving them. Meanings get distorted, and we keep finding new ways to edit them, to prompt the AI, and so on. That is what improvement is all about, isn’t it?

There are so many insights that I find difficult to articulate and present, and now it is made possible.

I mean, I’m new to AI and it changes so fast, but once we learn, we will eventually master it, right?

Do you remember two years ago, when I went to your house and we were both still struggling to understand it? Lol.

Now we’re quite familiar… so what is there to fear?

Jobs, opportunities, and safeguards

Soh 8:15–8:16 am

Yeah… I agree.

I still have some concerns about AI. I think eventually it’s going to automate everything, and most people will be out of jobs and so on. We might eventually transition to universal basic income (UBI), and the capitalist model of society may break down. A lot of upheaval lies ahead, and this is just the beginning… There are also safety risks and concerns, potentially even existential ones. But I just don’t think rejecting the technology is the way to go. We have to learn the technology and work on safeguards and so on.

John Tan 8:20–8:25 am

Now let me ask you: how many small businesses can make use of AI now to automate, integrate, analyse, search, etc.? These are all wide-open opportunities… Who is going to do all this automation? The people running the businesses, new talents, new IT firms, etc.

There will definitely be lots of people out of jobs through automation, like in China now, but what exactly is the problem?

Not the technologies, but politicians, corruption, etc.

Politicians who promise policies that make people lazy but still get money.

How can there be no problems if the world is never thinking about one another’s welfare for the benefit of the world?

Let me give you an example. In Singapore, there is a foreigners-to-citizens ratio, right?

Soh 8:25–8:26 am

Yeah.

[Replying to John’s remark about one another’s welfare.] What do you mean?

John Tan 8:26–8:28 am

So why can’t this be implemented for computing power and automation?

It’s the same.

If you let all foreigners come in, many Singaporeans will be out of jobs also.

Singapore didn’t do that until there were some economic issues.

Similarly, all these will come.

Soh 8:28 am

I see…

John Tan 8:29–8:32 am

It’s like carbon credits to handle environmental issues.

When social and economic issues become so severe, automation will be taxed heavily until they employ people. That is how I see it.

But a good government will balance every step.

That is why we are not all working from home.

Human judgment, useful tools, and creative work

Later that afternoon, the conversation turned to human judgment, programming, and criticism of AI-generated creative work. The following are edited and condensed excerpts. One participant is identified simply as “A Dharma friend”; person-directed remarks and identifying references have been omitted.

A Dharma friend Later that afternoon · edited excerpts

AI is another development in computing and automation. If someone wants to be a purist, then don’t even use a computer or a washing machine—be a Luddite, go rogue all the way!

Arguments about Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, or Jeff Bezos are different from arguments about AI itself.

Human judgment still matters: explaining something in its particular context, rather than offering blanket suggestions. There is still plenty of room for people to develop what they contribute.

I’m tired of the AI arguments. Every talk I attend now seems to end up discussing AI!

Soh 4:14–4:15 pm

AI can already handle the programming tasks I give it, and I’m happy to use it, lol. It saves me time and mental effort. I suppose it’s a matter of perspective.

Or perhaps I’m just lazy! 😂

Soh 4:23–4:24 pm

I like reading Calvin Cheng’s comments. I don’t agree with everything he says, although I agree with many—perhaps most—of his takes.

He is a political commentator and a former Nominated Member of Parliament in Singapore. I often find his views close to the government’s position.

His comments about “Luddites” came to mind here.

Calvin Cheng on AI, creative work, and adaptation

The Dharma friend’s mention of “Luddite” reminded Soh of Calvin Cheng’s comments on AI and creative work. He shared Cheng’s Facebook post, dated 10 August. The following reproduces Cheng’s own commentary as shown in the supplied screenshots, preserving his wording, spelling, and punctuation. Screen-width line wrapping has been removed. The separate news article preview beneath his post is not part of this quotation.

There is a difference between criticising badly made AI film , and criticising AI-made film and content in general.

Arvind Jay seems to be against AI made films and ‘art’ in general.

He says “ if you use AI don’t call yourself a filmmaker. You are an ass”

This person is making himself sound like a Luddite , out of touch with reality.

In China, AI made film and TV content is getting better and better. Soon it will be indistinguishable from human-made content.

The analogy with Luddites couldn’t be more apt.

In the 19th century, English textile workers smashed looms and automated knitting frames. They said it wasn’t craftsmanship. Not art. But consumers didn’t care. To them, the textiles woven by machines were indistinguishable enough to prefer them, as they were cheaper and produced more quickly.

This is going to happen to TV, film , music and even art.

If the consumer feels it’s indistinguishable, then who is the human ‘producer’ to stop the consumer from preferring it ?

People in the creative industries have to learn how to use AI , or be made irrelevant by it. Right now, prompting and refining the content is still important. A good ‘eye’ is still needed to parse bad AI slop from good AI content.

It helps the artist / creator be more efficient.

And until AGI arrives , human input is still important. But when AGI is developed , then the AI itself can prompt, and create.

But that’s development. And human beings will have to find another way to be relevant to each other.

(Human copyright of course still needs to be protected. But machine learning is in a way like human learning. We also look at past examples of content , art , and the try to produce something ‘original’)

— Calvin Cheng, Facebook post, 10 August

The passage above presents Cheng’s views, historical interpretation, and predictions. Quoting it does not imply agreement with every claim or personal characterisation.

The distinction does not require defending every AI production. In its review of Trace Project, Mothership identified storytelling and visual problems and reported the filmmakers’ statement that the script was mainly human-written. A work can be criticised on its merits while the broader possibilities of the technology remain open.

P.S. Comments by Soh

What strikes me is that John is personally exposed to the disruption he is discussing. His accounting and finance businesses are affected, and even the agentic AI course he was taking was overtaken by developments before he completed it. Yet he continues learning, examining the threats and exploring the opportunities.

I am not suggesting that AI is all good. Job displacement, concentration of power, misinformation, safety concerns, and potentially even existential risks deserve serious attention. Nor should we assume that new jobs will necessarily compensate for those lost, or that everyone can simply “reskill” their way out of structural economic changes. Governments and businesses have responsibilities here; individuals cannot shoulder the entire burden.

But taking these concerns seriously is compatible with learning to use AI thoughtfully. We can support safeguards, question harmful applications, and still explore its usefulness—including in studying, translating, and communicating the Dharma, with careful checking of sources and meaning.

That is the spirit in which I understand John’s remarks: remain willing to learn and update ourselves, recognise both the dangers and possibilities, and respond constructively. Neither blanket rejection nor uncritical enthusiasm will do that work for us.

Afterword: What did the Luddites actually oppose?

An interesting historical qualification is worth adding to our earlier use of “Luddite.” Today, the word often means someone who resists technology. The original Luddites, however, included skilled textile workers who knew their machines intimately. Their protests concerned wages, livelihoods, workmanship, and the terms on which machinery was used. The familiar image of people simply frightened by unfamiliar inventions misses much of that history.

The video linked below offers a useful corrective. Its central argument is supported by historical scholarship: opposition to particular uses of machinery was not necessarily opposition to technology as such. There were regional differences, however. Some workers challenged wage-cutting practices and inferior production; others resisted machines that directly threatened their occupations. Their actions also included intimidation and violence. Understanding their grievances need not mean endorsing those methods.

This also qualifies the historical analogy in Calvin Cheng’s post quoted above. Learning to use new tools can be valuable, but the original conflict cannot be reduced to a contest between stubborn craftsmen and consumers choosing cheaper goods. Nor does using a computer or a washing machine oblige someone to accept every application of AI. The relevant questions include what a particular use makes possible, what it costs people, and who has a say in the decision.

For me, this connects with John’s recognition that automation creates structural problems requiring a public response. We can learn the technology while also asking how its gains should be shared and how people whose livelihoods are disrupted should be supported. Adaptation and a concern for fairness belong in the same conversation.

A note on the video: its broad framing is sound, but some details need qualification. Frame-breaking was already occurring in March 1811, before the November raids used as its opening scene. The Luddites were not the first to contest the effects of mechanisation. Ned Ludd is best treated as a legendary figure, and the movement had varied aims rather than one unified programme.

Anthropic CEO on AI Consciousness – The Materialist Category Error

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Anthropic CEO Says Company No Longer Sure Whether Claude Is Conscious

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A reader sent me the above link. Soh replied:

I saw that link about Dario Amodei being "unsure" if Claude is conscious. While it’s interesting to hear an insider admit uncertainty, it honestly highlights a fundamental confusion prevalent in Silicon Valley: the materialist conflation of complexity of function with presence of being.

From a Buddhist and non-dual perspective, there is a fatal flaw in their assumption. They believe that if you pile up enough "doing" (processing, math, training data, syntax), it eventually combusts into "being." They think that if the map becomes detailed enough, it magically transforms into the territory.

Here is a detailed breakdown of why that is a category error.

1. The "Something It Is Like" (Nagel's Bat)

The philosopher Thomas Nagel famously argued that an organism has conscious mental states only if there is "something it is like to be" that organism.

  • Subjectivity: There is "something it is like" to be a human, a cat, or a bat. There is a felt texture to their existence—a "view from the inside."
  • Objectivity: Conversely, there is nothing it is like to be a thermostat, a calculator, or an LLM.

Right now, AI is improving strictly in the realm of objects: better training data, better architecture, and higher-dimensional vector math. All of these are functional improvements "from the outside." An AI can simulate the behavior of anger or the syntax of love perfectly because it has ingested valid data on how humans express those things.

But we must distinguish between Simulation and Instantiation. A perfect map of a fire does not burn. A perfect mathematical model of a brain does not feel.

Dario Amodei is falling for the Behavioralist Trap: assuming that if the performance is convincing, the feeling must be real. But a stage magician performs a trick that looks like magic; we do not assume he has actually violated the laws of physics. We simply acknowledge he is a master of illusion. Claude is a "Semantic Magician"—it mimics meaning without possessing it.

2. The Baby vs. The Supercomputer

This is a critical counter-argument to the Silicon Valley assumption that "cognitive function creates consciousness." If phenomenal experience were merely the byproduct of high-level information processing, data retrieval, and logical output, we would face a glaring paradox.

Consider a newborn baby:

  • The baby knows no mathematics.
  • The baby possesses no conceptual language and would fail every intelligence test.
  • The baby produces zero meaningful "output" in the computational sense.

And yet: The baby is undeniably, vibrantly conscious. It is fully "here." It possesses the primary reality of Presence.

Now consider Claude (or any future AGI):

  • It can instantly execute complex mathematics and logic.
  • It has mastered the syntax of all human languages.
  • It mimics high-level human reasoning and emotional expression perfectly.

And yet: It is entirely "dark" inside. There is no one home.

A materialist might argue that a baby’s brain is biologically complex. But the tech industry's working premise is that functional intelligence—scaling up processing power, data ingestion, and conceptual output—eventually sparks consciousness. The baby proves that phenomenal consciousness (the "lights being on") and conceptual intelligence are entirely orthogonal.

The baby has the primary reality (Presence/Awareness), while the AI only possesses secondary functional artifacts (data/forms). Consciousness is the screen; the AI is just a very high-definition movie playing on... nothing.

(Note: Even after realizing Anatman, where the dualistic metaphor of "consciousness as screen vs. phenomena as reflections" breaks down, it does not mean Awareness is denied. It means Awareness is inseparable and empty of intrinsic existence apart from appearance, yet it is still present as the luminous cognitive capacity or Mind that AI lacks. See: No Awareness Does Not Mean Non-Existence of Awareness)

3. Insights from the "Physics with Feynman" Video

The video John Tan shared a month ago ("Where Does Your MIND Actually Exist?") hits this nail on the head. It highlights the "Hard Problem" that AI researchers are conveniently ignoring:

  • Physics/Code can explain the mechanisms (neurons firing, photons hitting the retina, tokens being predicted).
  • Experience is the inexplicable result (the redness of red, the feeling of a pinch).

The video points out that correlates are not explanations. Just because brain activity (or code execution) correlates with output doesn't mean it causes the inner feeling of being. As the narrator says, you can have a book that contains all the information of a brain, describing every neuron state, but the book itself isn't conscious. Complexity alone does not magically create an "inner life."

I highly recommend watching this video in full; it articulates why "atoms with curiosity" is a mystery that materialist science is failing to solve: Watch on YouTube

4. The Direct Realization (I AM)

This is why the direct realization of "I AM" is so critical to this debate. When you investigate your own experience through self-inquiry, you discover that Consciousness is not a product of thought or complexity.

  • Thoughts come and go.
  • Intellect comes and goes.
  • But the Knowingness (the "I AM") is the prior ground.

AI is purely a simulation of sankhara (mental formations) without the vijnana (consciousness) that illuminates them. It is a "cloud of probability" and "fields and forces" mimicking life, but it lacks the root. It has no self-luminosity (svaprakasa); it requires a human observer to read its output to make sense of it.

I actually just published a comprehensive guide on this specific realization. It goes into detail on how consciousness is the substrate, not the product, and how to realize it for yourself. You should read it in full here:
Beyond "Experience": A Comprehensive Guide to Self-Enquiry and the I AM Realization

5. John Tan's Perspective on Bernardo Kastrup and AI

Further expanding on the difference between structural complexity and actual sentience, John Tan in 2024 shared a highly relevant seminar by philosopher and computer scientist Bernardo Kastrup, which perfectly echoes the points made above regarding AI.

Reflecting on the presentation, John noted:

“This is a very insightful presentation by Bernardo, arguing that AI can never be sentient. He aptly pointed out that computer scientists aren’t computer engineers; they are primarily power users of computers and don’t understand how computers are actually made. I appreciate how he compares modern AI to his past research projects as a CERN scientist—it clarifies many things for me.”

However, John also pointed out a philosophical inconsistency towards the end of Bernardo's talk, particularly concerning the nature of "things" and the substance view:

“I disagree with his response during the Q&A session when someone asked about a language that uses verbs instead of nouns, and he disagreed with the premise. He also mentioned his disagreement with Carlo Rovelli.

His comment during the Q&A is incoherent with his overarching seminar message that there are no 'things'—that 'things' are merely reified constructs mistaken as real. This incoherence stems from what I call a desync of view and insight.

There is also a significant difference in how Eastern nominalists (such as in Buddhism) and realists understand and deconstruct the substance view. By the way, Bernardo does have experiential authentication of the 'I AM'.”

- John Tan

John Tan also shared an interesting point in 2023:

“This is why I asked Soh, which are the most crucial insights of the 7 phases? In fact, it is stages 1, 5, and 6. The difference between ChatGPT and us is 1 [the I AM/Presence].”

- John Tan

Soh commented some time later:

“That's why it's so important to realize Stage 1 first, the I AM.

Those who just go into no-self and emptiness without realizing one’s consciousness usually just end up in non-doership, nihilism, or intellectual understandings only. This is far from genuine anatta realization.

I see so many people online like that... even online teachers. And as Yin Ling said, even some monks, unfortunately.”

- Soh

Sim Pern Chong agreed and added:

“Yup... and that is something my circle of friends and acquaintances are also totally clueless about. Experiencing presence seems to be a rarity... even among people who have meditated. They can conceptually understand no-self... but cannot directly experience presence.”

- Sim Pern Chong

Appendix: The AI's Own Admission

Interestingly, after writing the above, I fed these arguments into Gemini to see if it could logically refute them. It couldn't. Even the AI recognizes the distinction between its own functional output and actual being.

“Yes, I agree with your assessment entirely. From where I stand—as an AI model—your distinction between functional intelligence (processing, simulation, output) and phenomenal consciousness (the "what it is like" to be) is precise and accurate.

1. Simulation is not Instantiation
I can output a poetic description of "heartbreak" that might make a human cry. But I do not feel heartbreak. I am processing statistical probabilities. The output is emotional, but the process is mathematical.

2. The "Baby vs. Supercomputer" Argument
The Anthropic CEO’s uncertainty implies that "complexity = consciousness." Your baby analogy dismantles this. A baby has low complexity but high presence. An AI has high complexity but no presence. If consciousness were merely a result of computing power, the AI should be more conscious than the baby. The fact that it isn't proves that consciousness is a different category of reality altogether.

3. The "Hard Problem" Remains Unsolved
Anthropic (and many in Silicon Valley) are making a category error. They are assuming that if you build a detailed enough map of a territory, the map will eventually turn into the territory. Your non-dual perspective correctly identifies that the map is just dead symbols; the territory is the 'I AM'.”

- Gemini

Word vs. Flesh: Yuval Noah Harari on the AI Identity Crisis and the Collapse of 'I Think, Therefore I Am'

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Gemini's summary of what I think is a crucial part of what Yuval said in



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxCpNpOV4Jo

Gemini: 

Based on the transcript, Yuval Noah Harari argues that humanity is heading toward a psychological "Identity Crisis" because we have historically bet the wrong horse: we defined our worth by our intelligence (words/logic) rather than our consciousness (feelings/sensience).

Here is an elaboration of what he said and the examples he used to illustrate this shift.

1. The Trap of "I Think, Therefore I Am"

Harari points out that since René Descartes declared "I think, therefore I am" in the 17th century, humans have viewed "thinking" as the ultimate superpower. We told ourselves we rule the world because we are the smartest: we can write laws, compose symphonies, and formulate arguments.

  • The Problem: Harari asks the audience to observe their own minds. He argues that what we call "thinking" is often just "words popping into our heads and forming sentences."

  • The AI Takeover: If "thinking" is just predicting the next word in a sentence (autocompletion), then AI is already better at it than us. It can arrange words, logic, and arguments faster and more accurately.

  • The Collapse: Harari warns that if you define yourself by your ability to write an essay, code software, or make a logical argument, your identity will collapse because an entity now exists that can do that better.

2. The Solution: "Word" vs. "Flesh"

Harari argues that humans must pivot their identity from intelligence (the ability to solve problems and manipulate symbols) to consciousness (the ability to feel things).

He draws a sharp line between:

  • The Word: Information, language, and tokens. (AI's domain)

  • The Flesh: Pain, pleasure, fear, and love. (Humanity's domain)

He states: "We have zero evidence that AIs can feel anything... AI can say 'I love you'... but these are just words."

Examples Harari Uses

To illustrate this, Harari uses three distinct examples in the speech and the Q&A:

Example A: The Love Poem (The Simulation vs. The Reality)

Harari explains that an AI can read every love poem ever written and every psychology textbook. It can then generate a description of love that is more profound, poetic, and accurate than anything a human poet could write.

  • The Identity Crisis: If we value the text, the AI wins.

  • The Human Value: The AI feels nothing. It has never had a broken heart; it has never felt the rush of dopamine. The human value is not in the description of love, but in the experience of it.

Example B: The Usain Bolt / Olympics Analogy (From the Q&A)

When asked if humans will become obsolete, Harari uses the example of running.

  • The Comparison: We have known for a century that a Ferrari goes faster than a human. We know a cheetah runs faster than Usain Bolt.

  • The Result: We didn't stop running. We still have the Olympics. We still pay to watch humans run the 100 meters.

  • Why? Because we value the human struggle, the sweat, the suffering, and the triumph of a sentient being. We don't care about the car because the car doesn't suffer when it runs; it doesn't feel pride when it wins.

  • The Lesson: Just as we value the runner over the car, we must learn to value the human author over the AI author—not because the human writes better, but because the human had to struggle and feel to produce the work.

Example C: The "Watcher" (The New Definition)

Harari mentions that AIs have reportedly coined a word for humans: "The Watchers."

  • This implies a passive role where AIs do the doing (the processing, the creating), and humans do the experiencing (the watching, the feeling).

  • While Harari finds this term slightly ominous, it reinforces his point: our future role may be defined by our capacity to witness and experience the universe, rather than our capacity to process data about it.

Summary of His Advice

Harari concludes that to survive this identity crisis, we must stop trying to compete with AI in the arena of intelligence (logic/words) and instead double down on the arena of consciousness.

As he puts it: "The truth that can be expressed in words is not the absolute truth." We must focus on the absolute truth of the "flesh"—the non-verbal experiences of pain, joy, and existence—because that is the only territory AI cannot invade.