“RESPONDENT: I’m just here more or less alone, I guess.
RICHARD:
Each and every human being is on their own as a flesh and blood body
... dependent upon no one; autonomous. Being ‘alone’ or lonely is a
feature of being a self: ‘I’, the identity, am inside the body looking
out through ‘my’ eyes as if looking out through a window, listening
through ‘my’ ears as if they were microphones, tasting through ‘my’
tongue, touching through ‘my’ skin, smelling through ‘my’ nose, and
thinking through ‘my’ brain. Of course ‘I’ must feel isolated,
alienated, alone and lonely, for ‘I’ am cut off from the magnificence of
the actual world ... the world as-it-is.
RESPONDENT: I didn’t mean lonely by alone.
RICHARD:
One of the hallmarks of self-realisation is to no longer feel the
common or garden variety of loneliness but to experience the utter
aloneness of being ‘The One With No Other’; the mystical literature
abounds with descriptions of the master being alone ... in its root
meaning of ‘all+one’ (ME ‘al one’ from ‘al ane’ from OE ‘al ana’ from
‘al an’ where ‘al’=‘all’ and ‘ana’/‘an’=‘one’). And I am not necessarily
being pedagogic by digging around in the dictionaries ... for example:
• [Spiritual Seeker]: ‘Contrary to what you have said, Krishnamurti never says that he has a Soul, a Self.
•
[Richard]: ‘I beg to differ: [quote]: ‘I maintain that the only
spirituality is the incorruptibility of the self which is eternal ...
this is the absolute, unconditioned Truth which is Life itself’. [end
quote].
• [Spiritual
Seeker]: ‘His use of ‘sacred’ and ‘holy’ do not make him so, though you
use the dictionary to establish your point. Krishnamurti often departed
from the dictionary meaning and substituted another meaning. For
example, ‘alone’ he made to mean ‘all one’.
•
[Richard]: ‘Once again, I beg to differ: he did not make ‘alone’ mean
‘all one’ at all ... etymologically it already means ‘all one’.
The
mystical quality applied to ‘alone’ has popularly come to mean ‘we are
all one’ ... but the master is indeed alone in the sense of being
solitary. In solipsism only oneself exists – there is no ‘others’ – and
in some of the more archaic religions this gives rise to speculation
that their god or goddess dreams universes peopled with beings for
amusement or sport ... out of loneliness and/or boredom. Speaking
personally, I was alone for eleven years – but never lonely – and one of
the first things I noticed, upon breaking free of the massive delusion
of godliness, was the ending of aloneness ... and I am still never, ever
lonely. As a discrete flesh and blood body I am physically on my own
and autonomous, but with no separative entity to feel either lonely or
alone – cut off from the magnificence of the actual – the entire feeling
of being solitary has ceased to exist.” - AF Richard,
http://www.actualfreedom.com.au/.../generalco.../page09a.htm[10:00
AM, 4/16/2021] William Lim: Thanks... it was useful to focus and unpack
one topic at a time. Yesterday topic of "not seperate but yet distinct"
was interesting.
[10:13 AM, 4/16/2021] Soh Wei Yu: In anatta the all differentiations remain
[10:13 AM, 4/16/2021] Soh Wei Yu: There is not subsuming into some oneness
[10:14
AM, 4/16/2021] Soh Wei Yu: “...According to Dogen, this “oceanic-body”
does not contain the myriad forms, nor is it made up of myriad forms –
it is the myriad forms themselves. The same instruction is provided at
the beginning of Shobogenzo, Gabyo (pictured rice-cakes) where, he
asserts that, “as all Buddhas are enlightenment” (sho, or honsho), so
too, “all dharmas are enlightenment” which he says does not mean they
are simply “one” nature or mind.”
[10:14 AM, 4/16/2021] Soh Wei Yu: - ted biringer
[10:15
AM, 4/16/2021] Soh Wei Yu: All mindstreams are likewise differentiated,
they are not subsumed into one universal consciousness like advaita
[10:15 AM, 4/16/2021] William Lim: All mindstreams are distinct and yet there are no seperation?
[10:15 AM, 4/16/2021] Soh Wei Yu: But there is not subject object, agency-action, perceiver perceived duality
[10:16 AM, 4/16/2021] Soh Wei Yu: In hearing, hearing is just sound, no hearer
[10:16 AM, 4/16/2021] Soh Wei Yu: Etc
[10:16 AM, 4/16/2021] Soh Wei Yu: Its not one universal consciousness arising as a sound, i dont have such concepts
[10:16 AM, 4/16/2021] Soh Wei Yu: That is stage 4.. or stage 1 to 4
[10:17 AM, 4/16/2021] Soh Wei Yu: Even steven norquist havent really gone beyond stage 4 but his is nondual. Stage 4
[10:17 AM, 4/16/2021] William Lim: If there is no subject-object, how can there be "another" midstream?
[10:19
AM, 4/16/2021] Soh Wei Yu: There is no subject object, but all
differentiations remain. There is no hearer and no hearing besides
sound, but sound is not the same as scenery, not the same as thought
[10:19 AM, 4/16/2021] Soh Wei Yu: There is no consciousness besides manifestation and manifestation is always differentiated
[10:19 AM, 4/16/2021] Soh Wei Yu: So even in experience everything is differentiated, why can’t there be different mindstreams?
[10:20 AM, 4/16/2021] Soh Wei Yu: Under differing conditions, different manifestations appear
[10:20 AM, 4/16/2021] Soh Wei Yu: Therefore dependent origination
[10:20 AM, 4/16/2021] William Lim: This is good clarification”