Another day, another breakthrough

 


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Another day, another breakthrough.. a few more breakthroughs this week with those who spoke with me on reddit.
And i hope an awakening (awakener) version of chatgpt can speed up that process in future
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  • William Lim
    The Anatta Bot needs to code an Anatta Bot
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    • Soh Wei Yu
      Lots of the top engineers in USA are Indians. They are very smart. No surprise.. just hope the Buddhist version comes soon enough! I think within this year
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    • Soh Wei Yu
      Aiyo.. this is also why i like buddhism, there is just no justification for violence whatsoever.
      Even if someone is sawing off your arm, if you give rise to a thought of hate instead of loving kindness, you are not practicing what buddha preached. Thats buddha’s teachings.
      We are the religion closest to pacifist without being outright pacifists (buddha seems to accept that nations need defence force as a worldly necessity)
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    • Soh Wei Yu
      Bhikkhus, even if bandits were to sever you savagely limb by limb with a two-handled saw, he who gave rise to a mind of hate towards them would not be carrying out my teaching.
      — Kakacūpama Sutta, Majjhima-Nikāya 28 at MN i 128-29[8]
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    • William Lim
      Soh Wei Yu, so you must come up with ChatAnatta soon!
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    • Tan Jui Horng
      That day is gonna happen: GPT will stand for Gautama's Prajna Teachings
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    • Alan Smith
      Soh Wei Yu - It's important to note what Buddha means there and what he does not mean. He means that if someone is sawing your arm off, your mind does not give rise to hatred. It doesn't mean you continue to let them saw your arm off with no reaction in defense.
      Specifically, because some people read into that, that Buddhism is about letting be, and this means letting people do to you whatever they wish. And that isn't accurate.
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  • Piotr Ludwiński
    It would definetely speed up process of parroting
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  • Tyler Jones
    Anyone else repulsed by the idea of tasking an AI to give awakening pointers? Or is it just me?
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      Tyler Jones hmm ideally there will be enough awakened teachers
      But awakened teachers are rare and busy
      If A.I. can help more people and teachers, while not replacing the role of teachers entirely, it might be good
      Also i imagine an A.I. can do an instant practice diagnosis and recommendation ten or twenty years down the road just by checking your journal, your search history, your information
      Not good enough at the moment, even for medical diagnosis and advice its said that chatgpt can get it right most of the time, but the times when its wrong it can be horribly wrong
      So now is definitely not the time to replace a doctor or GP with chatgpt
      Let alone a spiritual teacher
      But u know how these things go, it can be improved to near perfection in another ten or twenty years or possibly less
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    • Tyler Jones
      The traditions talk about a living, mind to mind transmission that is occuring when working with a teacher. Even if one is reading a record of the words of such a skilled, awakened teacher, there is a certain amount of life in the words. So we joke about you being the anatta bot, but you are pasting words with this quality of aliveness. A chatbot might say the "right" things but not have this quality of aliveness. Just like a person who isn't awakened can pose as a teacher by learning to "talk Zen". This would be considered unethical of this person to do, so why not consider a chatbot doing so at least in poor taste? Moreover, even though you do a lot of copy and paste just based on seeing someone talking about IAM territory, you still do have intutitions about someone you've talked to a few times being "ripe", this is something that an AI analyzing text can't replicate (though it might get close from lingusitic cues I suppose).
    • Soh Wei Yu
      Yes i do a lot of copy pasting. I can engage with dozens of people online in a single day, so that would not have been possible without copying and pasting, while still holding a job. And even then im at the limits. If i am like avalokitesvara with 1000 arms then things would be easier and much more people could be helped. The thousand arms dont necessarily have to be thousand literal arms typing on a thousand keyboards, manually. Maybe the thousand arms are like ai bots, or maybe other atr members with insights, etc. this is just a random example, i am nowhere near avalokitesvara and shouldnt be comparing myself like that.
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      But a good thing chatgpt does is that it often advises people to seek a proper teacher
      As i always do
      But pointing them to the right direction first is a good thing and has led many to breakthroughs.
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    • Soh Wei Yu
      Sometimes i think people should read a dharma book first before they meet the teacher
      Like read walpola rahula’s intro book on buddhism for example
      At least have some basic understanding
      Likewise i advise people to read atr guide abridged first if they are into atr
      Or an intro book of whatever path they atr into (such as crystal and the way of light if into dzogchen)
      This is not some replacement for a teacher but to have a general sense or direction at least
      I think AI bot can sort of serve as an introductory guidance or educator while not replacing an actual teacher
  • Soh Wei Yu
    Yet another one on reddit broke through to nondual yesterday after I posted the fb post. Different person. He was into eckhart tolle previously and i amness and went into nondual after what i told him.
    John tan said
    “Yes not exactly no-mind but a non-dual insight and experience. The experience is good, however what needed is a much much more refined understanding of how conceptualizations and conventions hypnotized the mind. First is reification, second is fabrications and the release from all such proliferations.
    It is not easy to see and discern clearly the difference, much less overcoming these proliferations. Cessation and elimination of symbolic layerings CANNOT result in clear seeing, neither do non-dual experience, u need to understand this. That is the Prajna that clearly see through how confusions arise from such fabrications is most key. U need vipassana, u need samatha, u need conceptualization for analysis to relate to the "right view". We love to talk about "yeshe" but to me, prajna -- the alchemized exlixir of the conventional and primordial purity is more crucial 🤪.
    Also don't kept cutting and pasting, instead prompt him how wind-blowing, lightning-flashing, thunder-roaring, seer-seeing led to duality and substantiality and how it relates to the fabrications of phenomenon possessing essential nature and essential causality.”
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