John Tan weeks ago:

"Clarity as I AM is only dualistic and must go into anatta which is just the beginning into emptiness free from all elaborations and DO which is just natural perfection.

Because we do not know what the primordial and natural perfection is all about, we can only talk about de-construction of conventional constructs from self to all phenomena otherwise all experiences at every phases of insight will be distorted.

We think we know what is natural and primordial but we don't.

Whether it is anatta or not is dependent on insights and view, not just experience.

Means there must be a see through, then one realizes and go further to realize that self is a mental construct, learnt and taught, was never there but thought to be there.

However how subtle and deep do these conventional constructs affect mind and experiences is a different matter.

Many do not understand what is and how freedom mental constructs are like. No clarity of view and experience as long as one do not see DO and emptiness from mental constructs level as well as empty radiance level.

The mind will always link back to the physical and material world of conventional understanding, unknowingly links analysis and interpretation excluding consciousness from the equation.

Or we will jump into conclusion of denying causal efficacy not knowing what exactly mmk is pointing to and what exactly is negated. What do we mean by no cause and effect and what sort of cause and effect r we talking about and what exactly is non-causal talking about...

These are all the mind cognitive obscurations, it is unable to clearly sort out.

This proves our mind is still oscillating between the extremes."