Soh: Yeah, they just don't get it. John Tan already said this in 2008/2007 [about hardly any modern Theravadins properly realising anatman as a nondual insight]: https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2025/01/tejanandas-early-writings-and-john-tans.html

(Sharing 2008 Log)

Thusness: For now, just know about Anatta. You see, even for one to know that Anatta is non-dual and as manifestation, it is already rare. For so many Theravada practitioners misunderstood it.

(Sharing 2007 Log)

Thusness: How many explain no-self in terms of mirror-like, non-duality? So far, many I have seen explained it baselessly and nonsensically. Only Dharma Dan [Daniel M. Ingram] explained correctly. And Longchen [Sim Pern Chong] experienced correctly even without me telling him. I only said "no-self"; now is the time to refine the understanding and experience. Hopefully he knows what I meant, then the job is done.

AEN: I see. Bob posted this in that forum last year.

Thusness: He is progressing very fast.

(End of Logs)

Soh: Even to describe Anatta as a form of non-dual insight is super rare in Theravada. How many explain it misleadingly like Thanissaro or some other nonsense.

Nafis: If Mr P explores the Pali Canon seriously, the only commentary worth reading is Nanananda and Geoff, although the latter isn't an official teacher.

Soh: Luckily Mr P likes Geoff [https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2012/09/great-resource-of-buddha-teachings.html].

Nafis: Ajahn Brahm has Anatta, but doesn't provide detailed commentaries on the Pali Canon.

Soh: But I don't understand why he can't see the importance of the Anatta insight if he takes Geoff's writing seriously.

Nafis: The rest are hopeless.

Soh: I think Geoff is quite clear and realized Anatta. Unfortunately, he did not write about his realization, like Malcolm—at least not publicly [Soh's comments: Acarya Malcolm did describe more about his personal insights in his spoken teachings].

Nafis: Yeah, he points to it, but doesn't mention it explicitly.

Soh: Yup. I don't think he [Geoff] can write so well if he didn't have insights.

Nafis: In many of those cases, they even end up being similar to Ajahn Amaro. Borderline Anatta. I remember someone posted Ajahn Amaro before in the group, Yin Ling said it was very amazing, and afterwards we had to send her further excerpts.

Soh: Ajahn Amaro is clearly Stage 4. Just like John Tan broke through the Anatta stanzas but still held the sort of "One Mind" view. But unlike John Tan, who overcame that phase in, I think, one or two years, Ajahn Amaro just got stuck there since. Probably held his master Ajahn Chah's views too deeply. Yeah, the Bahiya Sutta one is very good. But if you read the rest of his book, he still can't overcome the mirror and reflections—unlike John Tan.