Wisdom Path and Overcoming Inherency
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    Yin Ling

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    Buddhism is a wisdom path.
    By saying it’s a wisdom path it means,
    We use our intelligence to see how does reality works. And then the suffering will unravel itself.
    That is the beauty of Buddhism. That is why I am so attracted to Buddhism, only because it is so elegant and so clever. It aims at the jugular.
    I don’t like to faff around.
    If there’s no diagnosis how r u going to treat?
    When one ask me “what fetters are you trying to remove?”
    Or
    “Everyday I tell myself to ungrasp and I am improving..”
    I know that person don’t really understand how buddhism works.
    You cannot remove fetters.
    And you cannot ungrasp if you still hold onto a self view. The self is the grasping. The inherent existence of phenomena is the grasping.
    The only thing one can do is to learn to see what is the problem with our view.
    Educate ourselves, what is this ignorance.. the Buddha Says it’s the first of the 12 links that propel suffering, so what is it???
    When a person really see what is ignorance, really see the mistake in our perception, suddenly they will wake up.
    Even more amazingly, their whole perception will change itself. Feels like a new reconfigured nervous system tbh.
    The fetters will drop one by one by itself.
    The grasping will unravel itself.
    Slowly. Across lifetimes.
    That is why in the Pali tradition, all the fetters are dropped after one see “no-self”, then from gross to fine the fetters are gone.
    In the Mahayana one reach first bhumi at “path of seeing”, seeing what? Seeing truth! emptiness! Then the others parami are perfected slowly. Afflictive obscurations followed by cognitive obscurations dropped as one progress along the bhumis.
    Ehipassiko, means, come and see.
    Not come and drop your fetters.
    Before seeing, all are just moralistic self control and suppression. Jhana is temporary suppression too.
    So you understand how the zen masters never ask another one “what fetters have you drop?” Lol.
    They ask “have you pass Mu”.?
    Do you know what is the sound of one hand clapping?
    It’s an extremely beautiful and powerful wisdom path.
    Buddhism says, we suffer because we are seeing it all wrong.
    So we need to get down to the heart of the matter!
    We must practice elegantly.. the whole path to enlightenment, to the end of suffering is written down .. word by word.
    Enlightened people are around.
    Ppl like The Dalai Lama teaches with his 100% effort.
    Don’t underestimate your mind to able to see the end of suffering
    and don’t waste this human life,
    Carefully find and learn from compassionate teachers who teach the wisdom path..
    practice with wisdom.
    There’s no other way really.

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    Jason Lee
    Well written. Spot on. Sadhu.


    • John Tan
    Integrating wisdom into our daily life must also include seeing how "ignorance" in a slippery manner seeps into our thinking mechanism.
    For example,
    It is not uncommon that when we experienced "presence" and "clarity", we naturally conclude that if without this luminous presence, then there is no everything.
    Do take note that if we just stop there and really believe it, then we are habouring "essential and inherent pattern of thinking". Instead, also understand that without everything, there is "no luminous presence" either.
    So keep the presence and experience, but refine the "view".

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 Yin Ling

John Tan ooo thank you. Yes. Without consciousness there’s nothing manifest. There’s no external world.. just some very magic dependent process going on.

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John Tan

Yin Ling likewise there is no "internal world" too for whatever originates in dependence is free from internality and externality, coming and going...etc free from all extremes. That is y it is important to see dependent arising until it is in our blood and bones then mind that grasps extremes (include life and death) can liberate.

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Yin Ling

John Tan ok! Thank you😁

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Chappell Isom

https://youtu.be/eye33kD4uSI

Breaking the Chains of Suffering -- Fetters 4 & 5 with Kevin Schanilec

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Breaking the Chains of Suffering -- Fetters 4 & 5 with Kevin Schanilec

Breaking the Chains of Suffering -- Fetters 4 & 5 with Kevin Schanilec

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Yin Ling

Chappell Isom I haven’t watch this but I understand Kevin doesn’t refer to fetters like how the Buddha refers to fetters. I generally try to abide by the tradition closely for best results haha.

Have you watch? What is the 4th and 5th fetter?

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Chappell Isom

There’s no contradiction between cutting fetters and ehipassiko. Why would there be? A path of freedom is learning to unfetter oneself.

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Yin Ling

Chappell Isom one need to actually see the insight directly before the fetters can drop.

That’s why I wrote the above.

That’s why we have stream entry, path of seeing, before any “perfections”.

Before insight, in Buddhism, you cannot even call it perfection. It’s mundane virtues.

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Chappell Isom

Yin Ling absolutely! Clear seeing is paramount. The only game in town. I have to constantly remind myself. Thank you for the powerful reminder and your posts; they fire me up.

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    Yin Ling
    I don’t understand why some ppl want to create more confusion for others when dharma is already so degenerate.
    Why don’t they name their own system after themselves ? That should be easier.
    Any good intention is not an excuse really.


    • Soh Wei Yu
    They misinterpreted the meaning of self view and the meaning of “the conceit of I Am”


    • Soh Wei Yu
    They think the vedantic self is conceit of i am
    Actually it is precisely self view
    Cos its view of inherent existence


    • Soh Wei Yu
    Even a sotapanna demolishes such self view in anatman realisation
    There is no doubt about buddhadharma after that


    • Soh Wei Yu
    Just impersonality or nondual alone is definitely insufficient to see the truth and uniqueness of buddhadharma.. why buddha teach dharma as anatman and dependent origination and not atman brahman


    • Chappell Isom
    Soh Wei Yu Soh, when you share this article, I wonder, do you believe Ingram, Kevin, Angelo, etc. have fully realized the Buddha’s teachings? Freedom from suffering? Isn’t that what matters the most despite the interpretations?


    • Yin Ling
    Soh Wei Yu yes we have to remember Buddha is teaching a group of extremely intelligent Brahmans during his time in the Pali tradition. Sariputra and moggalana are Brahmans. They already know brahmanic view. It is the whole point of why Buddha comes out and risk his life teaching.
    But not that only. Do they seriously think themselves Arahant with that few insights? Really? 😂🤦🏻‍♀️ I don’t know. It’s laughable for me.
    It’s dunning Kruger. Must study more these ppl.


    • Soh Wei Yu
    Chappell Isom To me all these are stream entry area. Not Arahantship, not overcoming of cyclic rebirth.


    • Soh Wei Yu
    John TanFriday, January 23, 2015 at 6:13pm UTC+08
    u cannot choose and pick what u like about liberation and enlightenment. Saying one has actualized anatta and uprooted self and attained arahatship is not what u see ppl declaring here and there. I have told u many times what [these people] realized is only at most stream entry. U r talking about liberation and freedom from cyclical existence and therefore u r referring to arahatship.

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    • Chappell Isom
      Soh Wei Yu thank you Soh. I recognize I have resistance to the belief that freedom from rebirth takes lifetimes. I feel like I hang my hat on it being more possible than not to fully free oneself in one human lifetime. I thought that’s what the Buddha taught; 7 days, 7 months, 7 years, ya know?


      • Soh Wei Yu
      Chappell Isom Yes. But he was teaching that particular teaching to monks who dedicate full time to retreats and practice. Their dedication to practice is not like us. They spend months and years fully practicing and meditating full time.


      • Soh Wei Yu
      In Dzogchen it is also said that you can attain rainbow body or Buddhahood in 12 years (or a particular number of years). But this is for those who dedicate full time to retreats and practice.


      • Soh Wei Yu
      Realistically, Malcolm says, most of us will not be able to attain Buddhahood in this life. Although we can practice and hopefully attain liberation in bardo. Or have a rebirth in a dharma family to continue.


      • Soh Wei Yu
      A good thing about stream entry is that you are assured that you will attain liberation in a maximum of 7 lifetimes. There is a Dzogchen form of stream entry too, which happens even before first bhumi/stream entry, but that is something you will have to find out for yourself through learning the teachings if you are interested. In Mahayana, the Mahayana stream entry is first bhumi which also comes with the ending of the first three fetters, the end to lower births (meaning only births in human and deva realms like a sotapanna) and so on.

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Yin Ling

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Sometimes when I practice very hard,
I have some doubts if it works.
You doubt yourself a lot at times along the path.
Coz it’s such a long path.
Sitting in half lotus despite the cold,
Sitting in half lotus during Fever,
headache
Sit in my clinic room
Sit a 30 mins while waiting for my delivery,
Wake at 4am so that I can sit before work.
It just takes that one ☝️
middle of the night when the body is still sick, walking groggily go to the bathroom 🚽 , not on bit of dharma on my mind,
When I half open my eyes to see the whole bathroom in translucent, holographic splendour without a shred of solidity,
my whole minds nature gleaming luminously back at itself,
The whole dharma right there without a single doubt.
Holy shit.
Trust me,
When your toilet turns empty.
The whole world can promise you everything glitter and gold
but your faith in the dharma won’t be shakable.


    • William Lim
    Holy shit indeed 😂


    Yin Ling
    William Lim i went to do number 1 not 2. 😂


    • William Lim
    Yin Ling I would think number 2 more effective... need more one-pointedness focus 😂

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    • Mr./Ms. BR
    True, I had once nice blissful quiet moment with a glimpse of 'something open' in me when I'm also at cr. This gives me learning that ANYWHERE can practice. 😉


    Yin Ling
    Mr./Ms. BR with very very diligent practice and with the right insight, all glimpses will become moment to moment experiences all the time. 🙂
    Whatever Gautama has talked about.. he hasn’t exaggerate anything. He has downplayed it all 😂 it will shock the pants off anyone who actually dares to see what he’s trying to show.




    • Anna Mukherjee
    Thank you for sharing your practice. Very inspiring and motivating 🙏




    • Chappell Isom
    What fetters are you working to cut?


    Yin Ling
    Chappell Isom haha ignorance.
    I want to cut the root of all fetters. 😜

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