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10. The one who sees that cause and effect operate infallibly For all the phenomena of saṃsāra and nirvāṇa, And for whom any objects of conceptual focus have subsided, Has set out upon the path delighting all the buddhas.

11. The knowledge that appearances arise unfailingly in dependence, And the knowledge that they are empty and beyond all assertions— As long as these two appear to you as separate, There can be no realization of the Buddha’s wisdom.

13. When you know that appearances dispel the extreme of existence, While the extreme of nothingness is eliminated by emptiness, And you also come to know how emptiness arises as cause and effect, Then you will be immune to any view entailing clinging to extremes.

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Soh Wei Yu
Soh Wei Yu Interesting video but this is skewing to the Actual Freedom sort of experience and mistaking PCE as ultimate. Skewing towards non conceptuality. However I like his description of body as construct,

“if you just feel the body, notice whatever you’re fe
eling you’re not feeling the body but a cloud of various sensations from feet to abdomen to chest to face to hands, aphormous sensations certain parts of which u cant feel at all, so you got a cloud of sensations which are actual, but that’s not the body. the body is a specific imaginary construct you have.

You don’t even know it’s you. You think this body is yours, you’re in control of the body, you think you were born in this body and it’s responsible for everything you see out there, that its perceiving the table, the cat, dog, wall, etc. all that is concept and imagination.”
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Joel Agee
Joel Agee Haven't seen more than the first five minutes or so of the video so far, but your comments led me to search for "PCE", and that took me to this very interesting and to me inspiring article by Daniel M Ingraham: http://integrateddaniel.info/my-experiments-in-actualism/.
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Soh Wei Yu
Soh Wei Yu Joel Agee I think it should be a natural state for you too.

Lately the intensity here seems to be intensifying even further and whole body mind universe is a sphere of boundless light as manifestation, the textures and details of the moment
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Joel Agee
Joel Agee Thank you for John Tan's comments. They dovetail with some things Daniel Ingraham says in his article. He is departing from the Actualist exclusive focus on non-conceptual experience. "Take a real honest approach to noticing feelings in the body, right here, and notice how they arise (causality), what thoughts go along with them, and what the stories in those thoughts are. Try to gently, honestly, humanly and kindly tease apart the stories and assumptions of those feelings, and notice when they change and what they change into as time progresses."
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Soh Wei Yu
Soh Wei Yu Was jogging just now and this boundless light (empty-clarity as the whole infinite field of manifestation) just keeps intensifying and intensifying into complete stunning brilliance, and had this out of body feel -- which is not a dissociated state (i can no longer experience subject/object dualistic state nor dissociation, nondual is always experienced here) but like a dispersing into the infinite field, and yet this is not mere mind-body drop as mind-body drop is already my ever-present state for many years.
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