Realizing No-Self and the Real Fiction of Self
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"Although nondual realization is considered, in Asian spiritual traditions to be an advanced level of spiritual attainment, I have found that for many people it is easily accessible. It is important to understand that nondual realization is a process. Complete nondual realization is said to be extremely rare, if it is possible at all. But an initial realization requires between one and three years of consistent practice intention."
To mature this realization, even direct experience of the absence of an agent will prove insufficient; there must also be a total new paradigm shift in terms of view; we must free ourselves from being bonded to the idea, the need, the urge and the tendency of analyzing, seeing and understanding our moment to moment of experiential reality from a source, an essence, a center, a location, an agent or a controller and rest entirely on anatta and Dependent Origination.
"Bhikkkhus, as purified and bright as this view is, if you covet, cherish, treasure and take pride in it, do you understand this Dhamma as comparable to a raft, taught for the purpose of giving up [i.e. crossing over] and not for the purpose of grasping?" "No, venerable sir." "Bhikkhus, as purified and bright as this view is, if you do not covet, cherish, treasure and take pride in it, would you then know this Dhamma as comparable to a raft, taught for the purpose of giving up [i.e. crossing over] and not for the purpose of grasping?" "Yes, venerable sir."source: http://www.leighb.com/mn38.htm
Whatever arises dependently originates.
Life is so, Death is so.
This is so, That is so.
Here is so, Now is so.
Therefore no life, no death, no this, no that, no here, no now.
No Self to create the hierarchy to complicate matters.
Marvelously simple, primordially pure.
Diverse yet equal!
Zazen is “mustering the whole body-mind (the whole of existence-time, inclusive of “A” and “not-A”) to look at forms and listen to sounds,” which is described by Dogen as “direct experience.” This “direct experience” is not only hearing, seeing, etc.; it is the arising of an ‘I’.” As in Shobogenzo, Genjokoan, “The myriad things advance and confirm the self.”
To carry yourself forward and experience myriad things is delusion. That myriad things come forth and experience themselves is awakening.
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To study the buddha way is to study the self. To study the self is to forget the self. To forget the self is to be actualized by myriad things. When actualized by myriad things, your body and mind as well as the bodies and minds of others drop away. No trace of realization remains, and this no-trace continues endlessly.
24. RE: The mind and the watchersource : Emptiness as Viewless View and Embracing the Transience
Apr 7 2009, 5:46 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 7 2009, 5:57 PM EDT
"I AM: Paradoxically, one feels at the same time that one is both essentially untouched by all phenomena and yet intimately at one with them. As the Upanishad says "Thou are That."
1.a. Body and Mind as Constructs: Another way to look at this is to observe that all compound things -- including one's own body and mind -- are **objects to awareness.** That is to say, from the "fundamental" point of view of primordial awareness, or True Self, even body and mind are **not self.**"
Ha Gozen, I re-read the post and saw **not self**, I supposed u r referring to anatta then I have to disagree...:-). However I agree with what that u said from the Vedanta (True Self) standpoint. But going into it can make it appears unnecessary complex.
As a summary, I see anatta as understanding the **transience** as Awareness by realizing that there is no observer apart from the observed. Effectively it is referring to the experience of in seeing, only scenery, no seer. In hearing, only sound, no hearer. The experience is quite similar to “Thou are That” except that there is no sinking back to a Source as it is deemed unnecessary. Full comfort is found in resting completely as the transience without even the slightest need to refer back to a source. For the source has always been the manifestation due to its emptiness nature.
All along there is no dust alighting on the Mirror; the dust has always been the Mirror. We fail to recognize the dust as the Mirror when we are attached to a particular speck of dust and call it the ”Mirror”; When a particular speck of dust becomes special, then all other pristine happening that are self-mirroring suddenly appears dusty.
Anything further, we will have to take it private again. :-)
...According to Dogen, this “oceanic-body” does not contain the myriad forms, nor is it made up of myriad forms – it is the myriad forms themselves. The same instruction is provided at the beginning of Shobogenzo, Gabyo (pictured rice-cakes) where, he asserts that, “as all Buddhas are enlightenment” (sho, or honsho), so too, “all dharmas are enlightenment” which he says does not mean they are simply “one” nature or mind.
The Buddha said, "It is just the dharmas that combine to form this body. When it arises, it is simply the dharmas arising; when it ceases, it is simply the dharmas ceasing. When these dharmas arise, [the bodhisattva] does not state, 'I arise'; when these dharmas cease, he does not state, 'I cease'." "In prior thought moments and subsequent thought moments, the moments do not relate to each other; in prior dharmas and subsequent dharmas, the dharmas do not oppose each other. This is called the the ocean seal Samadhi.
“A preceding thought-moment and a succeeding thought-moment do not anticipate each other; a preceding dharma and a succeeding dharma do not oppose each other."
觉醒于实相 · Awakening to Reality
路人(PasserBy)
AEN 你好,
今天早上刚读了你的帖子,一种纯真的喜悦油然而生。的确,在将不二(non-dual)凸显出来之后,下一步就是放下对临在(presence)的这种微细执取,并深入人法二空(two fold Emptiness)。
在你因思惟《婆希耶经》(Bahiya Sutta)而顿悟无我(anatta)之后的许多近期帖子中,你仍然很专注于鲜明的不二临在(vivid non-dual presence)。如今,那种“一切都像是‘我’”的感觉已成了日常;完全忘我地融入景色、声音、味道之中,那种极乐十分美妙。这不同于一切坍缩成某种“单一整体”(Single Oneness)的体验,而是散入凡所生起的种种显现之中。由于毫无间隔,一切都显得比“我”更亲近。这是自然的;但正如你在帖子中提到的:
……不知何故,即使明性(luminosity)已不再被视为一个“大我”(Self)或观察者,仍然有一种坚实感,仿佛明性/临在(luminosity/presence)始终就在“此时此地”(Here and Now)。退回到实体化的不二论(substantialist non-dualism)的倾向仍然很强……
的确,说得非常好。“当下性”(Now-ness)、“此处性”(Here-ness)与“大我性”(Self-ness)并无不同;把这些全都放下。最近你的论坛里有几场讨论,正是在指出:源于不二的明亮临在(non-dual Luminous Presence)的极乐,与人法二空之洞见所带来的“自行解脱”(self-liberating)的一面,两者之间有何不同。你可以重读那些讨论,也许会有帮助。另外,现在也是你该撇开临在(Presence)的时候了;这种滋味本已隐然存在,不如专注于直接从体验中洞见以下几点:
这种体验与不二的一心(One Mind)截然不同。重点不在于临在的寂静、通透与鲜明,而在于一种深刻的自由感;这种自由感源于直接体验到:显现是互不相连的、自发的、自由的、无界的,并且无所依。重读无我(anatta)的第一颂——摘录如下:
1. 缺少那种把诸经验连接、协调起来的造作者感(doer-ship)。
没有那个将经验连结起来的“我”,现象(念头、声音、感受等等)便如泡沫般漂浮,自由、自发、无界地显现。造作者感的缺席也带来一种深刻的自由感与通透感。听起来也许有些矛盾,但在体验上确实如此。当我们过度执著于“自性见”('inherent' view)时,就无法获得正确的理解。令人惊叹的是,“自性见”竟会阻碍我们看见:自由即是无造作者性(no-doership)、相互依存与相互关联、明性,以及不二临在。
进一步深入这些无所依、自由显现的现象,并探究任何生起之法的核心:不仅其背后没有任何作为背景的东西,内部也找不到一个核心;没有任何东西是“自性实有”(inherently there)的。如果我们真正看见刹那刹那经验的性空——不可寻得、无核心、无自性、不可得——某种“神奇”的事情便会发生。观察当“任何生起之法”的性空显露出来时,那种“执取”的业力习气如何自行松解。
不要被“谁—何处—何时”(who-where-when)这一建构所束缚,而应完全接纳缘起的知见;始终只是:缘起当生,缘尽当了。精进修持,直到体验到无所依、无内在核心的持续敞开;但不要急着求取任何体验。:-)
旅途愉快!
Awakening to Reality
By PasserBy
Hi AEN,
Just read your post this morning and an innocent joy arose spontaneously. Indeed, after bringing non-dual to the foreground, the next step is to let go of this subtle grasping of presence and penetrate deeply into the two fold Emptiness.
In many of your recent posts after the sudden realization of anatta from contemplating on Bahiya Sutta, you are still very much focused on the vivid non-dual presence. Now the everything feels ‘Me’ sort of sensation becomes a daily matter and the bliss of losing oneself completely into scenery, sound, taste is wonderful. This is different from everything collapsing into a “Single Oneness” sort of experience but a disperse out into the multiplicity of whatever arises. Everything feels closer than ‘me’ due to gaplessness. This is a natural but as you mentioned in your post,
...somehow, even though luminosity is no longer seen as a Self or observer, there is still a sense of solidity that luminosity/presence is constantly Here and Now. The tendency to sink back into substantialist non-dualism is still strong...
Indeed and very well said. ‘Now-ness, Here-ness’ are no different from ‘Self-ness’, let go of all these. There are several discussions in your forum recently that are related to the pointing out of the difference between the bliss that comes from non-dual Luminous Presence and 'self-liberating' aspect that comes from the insight of two fold Emptiness. You can re-read them, it may help. Also, it is time for you to put aside the Presence, this taste is already implicitly present, rather focus on having direct experiential insight of the following:
This experience is radically different from One Mind that is non-dual. It is not about stillness transparency and vividness of presence but a deep sense of freedom that comes from directly experiencing manifestation as being disjoint, spontaneous, free, unbounded and unsupported. Re-read the first stanza of anatta – an excerpt
1. The lack of doer-ship that links and co-ordinates experiences.
Without the 'I' that links, phenomena (thoughts, sound, feelings and so on and so forth) appear bubble-like, floating and manifesting freely, spontaneously and boundlessly. With the absence of the doer-ship also comes a deep sense of freedom and transparency. Ironical as it may sound but it's true experientially. We will not have the right understanding when we hold too tightly 'inherent' view. It is amazing how 'inherent' view prevents us from seeing freedom as no-doership, interdependence and interconnectedness, luminosity and non-dual presence.
Further penetrate into these unsupported freely manifesting phenomena and look into the core of whatever arises, not only there is nothing behind as a background, there is no inner core that can be found, nothing ‘inherently there’. If we truly see this unfindability, corelessness, essencelesnesss and ungraspability empty nature of the moment to moment of experience, something ‘magical’ will happen. Observe how the karmic tendency to ‘hold’ releases itself when the empty nature of ‘whatever arises’ comes into view.
Do not get bounded by the ‘who-where-when’ construct and embrace the view of dependent origination fully; always only 缘起当生, 缘尽当了 (AEN's translation: arises upon the arising of conditions, ends upon the cessation of conditions). Practice diligently until there is the experience of unsupported continuous opening without inner core but do not rush into any experience. :-)
Happy Journey!