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Note: Thrangu Rinpoche is teaching Clarifying the Natural State in Nepal
Note: Thrangu Rinpoche is teaching Clarifying the Natural State in Nepal
Also see: Two-Way Dependency/Dependent Designation
GG:
The juice of all this, imo, is that, "when in/as seeming phenomena, the ultimate is always conceptual" and as the ultimate "all phenomena is empty".
Just a fleeting feeling I had...
Me to GG:
Thrangu Rinpoche:
"The emptiness of all things, however, is not nothingness; it is interdependence. It is the unity or sameness of the appearance of something and its emptiness, the unity or sameness of the lucidity or vividness of something and its emptiness. When you look at your mind, you do not find anything, and the reason you do not find anything is that the mind's nature is emptiness. But the mind is not just empty; while being empty, its characteristic, its defining characteristic, is awareness. Therefore, when the mind is described, terminology like the unity of cognitive lucidity and emptiness or the unity of awareness and emptiness is used. Unity here is meant very strongly. The nature of awareness is emptiness, and the nature of the mind's emptiness is awareness."
"Even though it is, in a sense, supplemental to look at the mind within stillness, looking at the mind within appearances is presented here somewhat elaborately, which means it is divided into four practices and four presentations: seeing appearances as mind; seeing mind as emptiness; seeing emptiness as spontaneous presence; and seeing spontaneous presence as self-liberation."
- The Ninth Karmapa's Ocean of Definitive Meaning by Khenchen Thrangu Rinpoche
Therefore free from the extremes of eternalism and nihilism.
Chandrakirti:
"If you regard things as existent by virtue of (a reified) intrinsic reality, you thereby regard them as bereft of causes and conditions. And thereby you are condemning effects, causes, agents, actions, activities, originations, cessations, and even fruitional goals. Whatever is relativity we proclaim that emptiness. Nothing whatsoever is found which is not relativistically originated. Therefore, nothing whatsoever is found which is not empty. So if all things were not empty, there would be no origination and no destruction."
H.H. The 8th Karmapa, Mikyo Dorje:
"From the perspective of both analysis and the seeing of noble ones, mere dependent origination and also the completely releasing liberation that is based on it are inexpressible as something other than perfect nirvana. Hence, neither something to be attained, nor the means to attain it, nor any attainment are established.
However, at this point, it is also not said that “these do not exist.” Nor are they expressed as being both existent and nonexistent or being neither.
Thus, without thinking or apprehending anything and without any effort, one evenly rests in just this uncontrived and relaxed great ease in which there is nothing to do. Then, no matter what inner and outer appearances of the six collections [of consciousness] and their objects (the bearers of the nature [of phenomena]) emerge, through discriminating supreme knowledge and mindfulness, all of them are realized as their true nature, the natural state of emptiness.
Just like snowflakes falling [and melting] on a hot stone, one looks straight at appearance-emptiness, sound-emptiness, and awareness-emptiness and is directly released."
Thusness:
"When one says mind or basis or clarity or presence, it is only conventional expression. If we mistaken there is anything to grasp or anything beyond or ineffable, it is immediately mistaken. However if we just stop there it becomes nihilistic. Because the purpose is to allow one to clearly and fully realize, feel and taste the moment to moment of manifestation. To clearly see and understand the nature of what is felt, seen, taste, heard and thought. It is not only no seer, but in the seen just the seen. However in the seen just the seen can be seen as a form of focus shamatha concentration. Therefore I always say it is the natural state."
GG:
The juice of all this, imo, is that, "when in/as seeming phenomena, the ultimate is always conceptual" and as the ultimate "all phenomena is empty".
Just a fleeting feeling I had...
Me to GG:
Thrangu Rinpoche:
"The emptiness of all things, however, is not nothingness; it is interdependence. It is the unity or sameness of the appearance of something and its emptiness, the unity or sameness of the lucidity or vividness of something and its emptiness. When you look at your mind, you do not find anything, and the reason you do not find anything is that the mind's nature is emptiness. But the mind is not just empty; while being empty, its characteristic, its defining characteristic, is awareness. Therefore, when the mind is described, terminology like the unity of cognitive lucidity and emptiness or the unity of awareness and emptiness is used. Unity here is meant very strongly. The nature of awareness is emptiness, and the nature of the mind's emptiness is awareness."
"Even though it is, in a sense, supplemental to look at the mind within stillness, looking at the mind within appearances is presented here somewhat elaborately, which means it is divided into four practices and four presentations: seeing appearances as mind; seeing mind as emptiness; seeing emptiness as spontaneous presence; and seeing spontaneous presence as self-liberation."
- The Ninth Karmapa's Ocean of Definitive Meaning by Khenchen Thrangu Rinpoche
Therefore free from the extremes of eternalism and nihilism.
Chandrakirti:
"If you regard things as existent by virtue of (a reified) intrinsic reality, you thereby regard them as bereft of causes and conditions. And thereby you are condemning effects, causes, agents, actions, activities, originations, cessations, and even fruitional goals. Whatever is relativity we proclaim that emptiness. Nothing whatsoever is found which is not relativistically originated. Therefore, nothing whatsoever is found which is not empty. So if all things were not empty, there would be no origination and no destruction."
H.H. The 8th Karmapa, Mikyo Dorje:
"From the perspective of both analysis and the seeing of noble ones, mere dependent origination and also the completely releasing liberation that is based on it are inexpressible as something other than perfect nirvana. Hence, neither something to be attained, nor the means to attain it, nor any attainment are established.
However, at this point, it is also not said that “these do not exist.” Nor are they expressed as being both existent and nonexistent or being neither.
Thus, without thinking or apprehending anything and without any effort, one evenly rests in just this uncontrived and relaxed great ease in which there is nothing to do. Then, no matter what inner and outer appearances of the six collections [of consciousness] and their objects (the bearers of the nature [of phenomena]) emerge, through discriminating supreme knowledge and mindfulness, all of them are realized as their true nature, the natural state of emptiness.
Just like snowflakes falling [and melting] on a hot stone, one looks straight at appearance-emptiness, sound-emptiness, and awareness-emptiness and is directly released."
Thusness:
"When one says mind or basis or clarity or presence, it is only conventional expression. If we mistaken there is anything to grasp or anything beyond or ineffable, it is immediately mistaken. However if we just stop there it becomes nihilistic. Because the purpose is to allow one to clearly and fully realize, feel and taste the moment to moment of manifestation. To clearly see and understand the nature of what is felt, seen, taste, heard and thought. It is not only no seer, but in the seen just the seen. However in the seen just the seen can be seen as a form of focus shamatha concentration. Therefore I always say it is the natural state."
Also Geovani Geo: this clarifies http://awakeningtoreality.blogspot.com/2014/12/two-way-dependencydependent-designation.html
Thusness:
念头非生灭，也非不生不灭，而是了悟一切法，因缘起故无生。
(Thoughts are neither arising and ceasing, nor non-arising and non-ceasing, rather it is directly realized to be non-arising because of dependent origination)
~ 2014
Whatever manifests (dharma/appearances/phenomena/pure sensory experiences) is directly realized to be non-arising because of dependent origination.
~ 2014
Also,
Je Tsongkhapa wrote the text "In Praise of Dependent Origination" (Available Here) the day after he realized Dependent Origination and Emptiness.
More on Tsongkhapa's teachings
Excerpt:
念头非生灭，也非不生不灭，而是了悟一切法，因缘起故无生。
(Thoughts are neither arising and ceasing, nor non-arising and non-ceasing, rather it is directly realized to be non-arising because of dependent origination)
~ 2014
Whatever manifests (dharma/appearances/phenomena/pure sensory experiences) is directly realized to be non-arising because of dependent origination.
~ 2014
Also,
Je Tsongkhapa wrote the text "In Praise of Dependent Origination" (Available Here) the day after he realized Dependent Origination and Emptiness.
More on Tsongkhapa's teachings
Excerpt:
11
For you, when one sees emptiness
In terms of the meaning of
dependent origination,
Then being devoid of intrinsic existence and
Possessing valid functions do not contradict.
12
Whereas when one sees the opposite,
Since there can be no function in emptiness
Nor emptiness in what has functions,
One falls into a dreadful abyss, you maintain.
13
Therefore in your teaching
Seeing dependent origination is hailed;
That too not as an utter non-existence
Nor as an intrinsic existence.
"My practice isn't esoteric but direct, simple empty clarity and compassion.
My entire experience is currently free and liberating... and fills with joyous reverence and compassion. Very happy.
An open expanse of brilliance clarity beyond description... without dual and solidity.
My entire being is filled with/embraced will this clean, pure boundless insubstantial radiance freedom... energy dancing joyously and like gonna burst.
I just want this empty clarity to be as natural as possible with this reverence and compassionate taste.
Once your empty clarity becomes clear, powerfully present and naturally non-dual without concern of maintaining... the 3 states (waking, dreaming and deep sleep) will have a single taste.
Deep Sleep and waking will share a single taste of bliss as if it is a perfection seamless continuum ... There is no concern.
The strong presence will guide you...
The greater the strength of this insubstantial brilliance clarity, the lesser the concern
Only when our presence is weak there is the problem with distractions
It is like when a bodhisattva filled with compassion is not distracted with own suffering at all."
~ Thusness, 2014
Thusness:
"There is the self that arises from conceptual reification, seeing through that with anatta insight is entry point.
There is the self that arises in marketplace, in day to day activities, anatta of that is graduation."
"There is the self that arises from conceptual reification, seeing through that with anatta insight is entry point.
There is the self that arises in marketplace, in day to day activities, anatta of that is graduation."
"Though one should live a hundred years
As a lazy, sluggish person,
Better it is to live a single day
Firmly arousing one’s energy."
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(Dhammapada 112)
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https://www.dhammatalks.org/suttas/KN/Thag/thag3_5.html
shirking their work:
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https://www.dhammatalks.org/suttas/KN/Thag/thag3_5.html
Thag 3:5 Mātaṅgaputta
It’s too cold,
too hot,
too late in the evening—
people who say this,shirking their work:
The moment passes them by.
Whoever regards cold & heat
as no more than grass,
doing his manly duties,
as no more than grass,
doing his manly duties,
won’t fall away
from ease.
With my chest
I push through wild grasses—
I push through wild grasses—
spear-grass,
ribbon-grass,
rushes—
cultivating a heart
bent on seclusion.
See also: AN 8:95
Dogen:
Those who know a speck of dust know the entire universe; those who penetrate a single dharma penetrate all dharmas. If you do not pentrate all dharmas, you do not penetrate a dharma. When you understand the meaning of penetration (tsu) and thereby penetrate thoroughly, you discern all dharmas as well as a single dharma. For this reason, while you study a speck of dust, you study the whole universe without fail.
(Eighei Dogen: Mystical Realist, Hee-Jin Kim)
Those who know a speck of dust know the entire universe; those who penetrate a single dharma penetrate all dharmas. If you do not pentrate all dharmas, you do not penetrate a dharma. When you understand the meaning of penetration (tsu) and thereby penetrate thoroughly, you discern all dharmas as well as a single dharma. For this reason, while you study a speck of dust, you study the whole universe without fail.
(Eighei Dogen: Mystical Realist, Hee-Jin Kim)
