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Pointers by Angelo Grr for those contemplating self-enquiry to realize the I AM.

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Inquiry for First Awakening

The inquiry that leads to first awakening is a funny thing.  We want to know “how” precisely to do that inquiry, which is completely understandable.  The thing is that it’s not wholly conveyable by describing a certain technique.  Really it’s a matter of finding that sweet spot where surrender and intention meet.  I will describe an approach here, but it’s important to keep in mind that in the end, you don’t have the power (as what you take yourself to be) to wake yourself up.  Only Life has that power.  So as we give ourselves to a certain inquiry or practice it’s imperative that we remain open.  We have to keep the portals open to mystery, and possibility.  We have to recognize that the constant concluding that “no this isn’t it, no this isn’t it either...” is simply the activity of the mind.  Those are thoughts.  If we believe a single thought then we will believe the next one and on and on.  If however we recognize that, “oh that doubt is simply a thought arising now,” then we have the opportunity to recognize that that thought will subside on its own... and yet “I” as the knower of that thought am still here!  We can now become fascinated with what is here once that thought (or any thought) subsides.  What is in this gap between thoughts?  What is this pure sense of I, pure sense of knowing, pure sense of Being?  What is this light that can shine on and illuminate a thought (as it does thousands of times per day), and yet still shines when no thought is present.  It is self illuminating.  What is the nature of the one that notices thoughts, is awake and aware before, during, and after a thought, and is not altered in any way by any thought?  Please understand that when you ask these questions you are not looking for a thought answer, the answer is the experience itself.

When we start to allow our attention to relax into this wider perspective we start to unbind ourselves from thought.  We begin to recognize the nature of unbound consciousness by feel, by instinct.  This is the way in.

At first we may conclude that this gap, this thoughtless consciousness is uninteresting, unimportant.  It feels quite neutral, and the busy mind can’t do anything with neutral so we might be inclined to purposely engage thoughts again.  If we recognize that “not interesting, not important, not valuable” are all thoughts and simply return to this fluid consciousness, it will start to expand.  But there is no need to think about expansion or watch for it.  It will do this naturally if we stay with it.   If you are willing to recognize every thought and image in the mind as such, and keep your attention alert but relaxed into the “stuff” of thought that is continuous with the sense of I, it will all take care of itself.  Just be willing to suspend judgement.  Be willing to forego conclusions.  Be willing to let go of all monitoring of your progress, because these are all thoughts.  Be open to the pure experience.  Just return again and again to this place of consciousness with no object or pure sense of I Am.  If you are willing to do this it will teach itself to you in a way that neither I nor anyone I’ve ever seen can explain, but it is more real than real.

Happy Travels.

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Inquiry for First Awakening 

The inquiry that leads to first awakening is a funny thing.  We want to know “how” precisely to do that inquiry, which is complete… See more

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Soh Wei Yu

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Yesterday someone told me he watched Angelo Grr's videos but it doesn't resonate because he is already post I AM (in fact post nondual and going into anatta) and most of the videos are talking about I AM. I told him I added Angelo's youtube channel to the reading list on my AtR blog, and he should check out the No-Self section in https://www.youtube.com/@SimplyAlwaysAwake/playlists

Basically the youtube videos are categorised, and you can find relevant videos for different phases of insights based on the playlist sections. Like Non-Duality is probably the nondual phase of insight, no-self is more on anatta, inquiry and consciousness I believe is more for I AM. There's something out there for everyone. Angelo Grr can clarify if I'm wrong.

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Soh Wei Yu Exactly. I really tried to categorize things by playlist. Non-dual and no-self etc.

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 xabir = Soh

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Whenever I get bothered by my restless thoughts I ask myself,"Am I these thoughts or the eternal Self that witnesses these thoughts" and try to be more aware. Is there anything wrong in this technique?

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IMO: It's better you ask "What is this Self that witnesses these thoughts", because this inquiry will turn your attention towards the Source, find out what exactly is this Self. Then you will sieve out the self from the not-self.

Whereas "Am I these thoughts or am I Self" may just lead to a mental or conceptual conclusion "I am Self" but not the pure direct realization and experience of what exactly and precisely Self is.

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IMO: It's better you ask "What is this Self that witnesses these thoughts", because this inquiry will turn your attention towards the Source, find out what exactly is this Self. Then you will sieve out the self from the not-self.

And who will give me the answer? Will my 'SELF' give any answer? I don't exactly get it. How will answer come on its own?

Whereas "Am I these thoughts or am I Self" may just lead to a mental or conceptual conclusion "I am Self" but not the pure direct realization and experience of what exactly and precisely Self is.

I thought it would help me to make me seperate from the thoughts so that I don't get bothered by my thoughts. Self Enquiry is hard to understand. Can you sinplify?

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“That which is sure of its existence – the innermost certainty of I Am – is what you essentially are. In other words: I Am this knowing that knows that I Am.” - Leo Hartong

"Doubts
By turning the attention to the mind, immediately there are doubts. More thoughts rush in to question the questions, confirm or contradict other thoughts. A maddening cycle...
Notice when thoughts are paused there are no doubts; the certainty of (doubtless) Being is obviously present; the unquestionable FACT of EXISTENCE. Notice that the Being is ALWAYS presently shining, effortlessly and spontaneously. Stay with that undeniable non-conceptual confidence. Your Being has always been present for every single experience. That natural cognition in which all experiences arise is not a person.
Be as you ARE and not what you imagine yourself to be.
~ Jason Swason, May 8, 2010"

Self enquiry is quite simple. Just find out, Who am I? What am I? Before birth, who am I? Without thoughts, what am I? You can pick or choose the exact phrasing but the point of the self enquiry is not in reciting words. It's in directing attention to find out the Source of your Being at a non-verbal level.

If you need more pointers check these out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCrWn_NueUg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=783Gb4KbzGY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymvj01q44o0

https://youtu.be/BA8tDzK_kPI
http://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2020/11/what-is-your-very-mind-right-now.html
http://awakeningtoreality.blogspot.com/2018/12/the-direct-path-to-your-real-self.html
https://app.box.com/s/v8r7i8ng17cxr1aoiz9ca1jychct6v84

Read books like "Be As You Are" by Ramana Maharshi, also books by John Wheeler (the advaita author). These may also be helpful.

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