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    I “feel” no-self,
    I don’t “think” no-self.
    For me the whole experience transform into a “no-self” experience and it is the most obvious thing hence I think it cannot be missed.
    And u will know, u don’t really need validation.
    Mother Earth will validate u.
    If u wonder, is this anatta?
    most of the time it is not.
    Coz it is so energetic and obvious.
    The beingness that you used to feel “self” in your own body is now ..
    In the trees skies, grass, bed, other ppl, cars, rooms etc etc etc all over.
    The share the same beingness and energy as me.
    So I don’t feel “self” anymore.
    I feel vast, I feel “all”, I feel like expansive.
    Like the energy holding “me” open and not able to collapse back into my body.
    This Anatta experience is subconscious because if I wake up in the middle of the night
    I still feel the same way
    It is 24/7.
    The self is completely gone, like it has never been here before.
    It is a totally inside out experience, like one wear a shirt inside out.
    Hence buddhism feels against the grain if one has no insight but
    With Anatta insight and the xp turns inside out, it is easy and not against the grain anymore
    That’s my personal xp and opinion 🙂

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    John Tan
    What abt in dreams?


  • Yin Ling
    John Tan I don’t have dreams until now for so many months already 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️what to do?


  • John Tan
    Yin Ling imbalance ur body 5 elements🤣. No lah Joking...how many hours u sleep?


  • Yin Ling
    John Tan 5-6 lately , reduced from 7-8 suddenly over past 2-3 months.
    If I don’t exercise kenot sleep 😂


  • John Tan
    Yin Ling yeah that is usual. I like the description like "one wears a shirt inside out". 👍. I used to describe it as concave turns convex, mirror turns reflection.

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  • Yin Ling
    John Tan hahahaha that’s a crude description yours is more refined. Nearly write socks inside out. 😂


  • Yin Ling
    John Tan I wrote coz ppl asked me to validate, I can’t.
    But I feel like If the person is not sure, it’s not it. Coz for me it is whoaaaa the world is inversed .. shouldn’t everyone whose world is inverse knows that obviously ?
    Then again I haven’t speak with many


  • John Tan
    Yin Ling don't worry abt others, practice is not abt what others think and u do not need to convince others.

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  • John Tan
    Yin Ling 心寄无物,万事随缘。Applies very well to worldly wisdom also.

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  • Yin Ling
    Meaning don’t cling to anything but accept that everything manifest rightly with conditions?
    Sorry Chinese sometimes half past 6😅









  • William Lim
    I also want the inside-out T-shirt and socks combo. Uniqlo got sell?


    Yin Ling
    William Lim I think you take from John Tan shirt and socks better la


  • William Lim
    Aiya, John Tan everytime say he's not a T-shirt seller







  • Mr./Ms. YEH
    thanks for sharing with us 🙏❤️

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    Soh Wei Yu
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    Yes, there is no relation between MCTB cessation and I AM. They are different.
    However, there are cessations related to I AM where all senses and thoughts shut off and what remains is I AM. This is Nirvikalpa Samadhi, which is *Not* MCTB or Mahasi cessation.


  • Soh Wei Yu
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    On the different types of insights and samadhis and cessation states, see this PDF which is a good and interesting read (please don't share or post this elsewhere because the author will get it published as a book in future): [link redacted]
    I led this author to nondual and then anatta realization in 2011, previously he was at I AM.
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  • Soh Wei Yu
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    Furthermore I also do not agree that MCTB stream entry correlates with Sutta stream entry or 'nibbana', and this is well explained in an article that John Tan and I likes: https://www.reddit.com/.../insight_buddhism_a... , https://www.awakeningtoreality.com/.../insight-buddhism...
    [insight] [buddhism] A reconsideration of the meaning of "Stream-Entry" considering the data points of both pragmatic Dharma and traditional Buddhism
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    [insight] [buddhism] A reconsideration of the meaning of "Stream-Entry" considering the data points of both pragmatic Dharma and traditional Buddhism
    [insight] [buddhism] A reconsideration of the meaning of "Stream-Entry" considering the data points of both pragmatic Dharma and traditional Buddhism

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      Soh Wei Yu
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      Mr. SG Vipassana and Self-Enquiry are different forms of practice and I am glad Kenneth Folk made it three gears so as not to confuse one form of practice with another. (Samatha-vipassana 1st gear, self-enquiry second gear, surrender/non-dual 3rd gear)
      From AtR guide:
      "On a related topic, John Tan wrote in Dharma Overground back in 2009,
      “Hi Gary,
      It appears that there are two groups of practitioners in this forum, one adopting the gradual approach and the other, the direct path. I am quite new here so I may be wrong.
      My take is that you are adopting a gradual approach yet you are experiencing something very significant in the direct path, that is, the ‘Watcher’. As what Kenneth said, “You're onto something very big here, Gary. This practice will set you free.” But what Kenneth said would require you to be awaken to this ‘I’. It requires you to have the ‘eureka!’ sort of realization. Awaken to this ‘I’, the path of spirituality becomes clear; it is simply the unfolding of this ‘I’.
      On the other hand, what that is described by Yabaxoule is a gradual approach and therefore there is downplaying of the ‘I AM’. You have to gauge your own conditions, if you choose the direct path, you cannot downplay this ‘I’; contrary, you must fully and completely experience the whole of ‘YOU’ as ‘Existence’. Emptiness nature of our pristine nature will step in for the direct path practitioners when they come face to face to the ‘traceless’, ‘centerless’ and ‘effortless’ nature of non-dual awareness.
      Perhaps a little on where the two approaches meet will be of help to you.
      Awakening to the ‘Watcher’ will at the same time ‘open’ the ‘eye of immediacy’; that is, it is the capacity to immediately penetrate discursive thoughts and sense, feel, perceive without intermediary the perceived. It is a kind of direct knowing. You must be deeply aware of this “direct without intermediary” sort of perception -- too direct to have subject-object gap, too short to have time, too simple to have thoughts. It is the ‘eye’ that can see the whole of ‘sound’ by being ‘sound’. It is the same ‘eye’ that is required when doing vipassana, that is, being ‘bare’. Be it non-dual or vipassana, both require the opening of this 'eye of immediacy'.”"

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